Jason Campbells response to Portis

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why does a WC QB need to be more of a leader in your opinion?

Because, the team's offense is directly related to how well the qb does. And it's not just leading by performance, but it's also leading by character and discipline (disciplining others, making sure that everyone is on the same page and going in the same direction).

Campbell has character, which I can respect -- but I don't think he has the other two traits.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Because, the team's offense is directly related to how well the qb does. And it's not just leading by performance, but it's also leading by character and discipline (disciplining others, making sure that everyone is on the same page and going in the same direction).

Campbell has character, which I can respect -- but I don't think he has the other two traits.

Well I think you can say that about any offense, I don't get your correlation to the west coast offense.

JC was voted team captain by his teammates, and there have been plenty of comments made in his support these last few days. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I don't see where JC's lack of leadership is some sort of major issue. Certainly not more so than a bad offensive line and many other issues that plagued the offense this year.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well I think you can say that about any offense, I don't get your correlation to the west coast offense.

JC was voted team captain by his teammates, and there have been plenty of comments made in his support these last few days. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, but I don't see where JC's lack of leadership is some sort of major issue. Certainly not more so than a bad offensive line and many other issues that plagued the offense this year.

Yes, I will agree to disagree.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

Yes, I will agree to disagree.

Do you think JC's leadership was a bigger problem than say the OL this year? Or would we have won more games if he was simply a more vocal, take charge kind of guy?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Do you think JC's leadership was a bigger problem than say the OL this year? Or would we have won more games if he was simply a more vocal, take charge kind of guy?

You have the wrong idea of what a leader is and when he leads. He just doesn't lead in games, he also is a leader in practice, outside of practice. He gets people in line doing and thinking the right way or the redskins way -- so that way, the players and even coaches trust that everyone is prepared to do their best in games.

Seems to be unfair to ask that of any one player, but that's what the quarterback to me needs to be - a leader, THE leader.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

You have the wrong idea of what a leader is and when he leads. He just doesn't lead in games, he also is a leader in practice, outside of practice. He gets people in line doing and thinking the right way or the redskins way -- so that way, the players and even coaches trust that everyone is prepared to do their best in games.

Seems to be unfair to ask that of any one player, but that's what the quarterback to me needs to be - a leader, THE leader.

But, it seems that many here are forgetting that leadership needs 2 things: responsibility and Authority. I think Campbell has the responsibility as a qb, but often times the authority was pulled out from under him-that's my impression.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

You have the wrong idea of what a leader is and when he leads. He just doesn't lead in games, he also is a leader in practice, outside of practice. He gets people in line doing and thinking the right way or the redskins way -- so that way, the players and even coaches trust that everyone is prepared to do their best in games.

Seems to be unfair to ask that of any one player, but that's what the quarterback to me needs to be - a leader, THE leader.

Why do you think he doesn't do these things?

Also, you didn't answer my question. If he was a "better leader" would we have won more games? Was his lack of leadership a bigger issue to you than the OL?

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why do you think he doesn't do these things?

Also, you didn't answer my question. If he was a "better leader" would we have won more games? Was his lack of leadership a bigger issue to you than the OL?

He doesn't seem to do these things because they came to too many games unprepared.

And yes, coming into the games more prepared would have won them more games.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

He just doesn't lead in games, he also is a leader in practice, outside of practice

Well, I guess than JC already has one leg up on CP in the department. At least JC showed up and practiced.

There are different ways of being a leader. You can be a rah-rah type and be all up in people's faces or you can lead by example by being a good teammate, showing up to practice every day, attending all off season programs, and supporting your teammates by being positive and having a optimistic outlook rather than throwing them under the bus whenever you get a chance.

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by Redskins_P

Well, I guess than JC already has one leg up on CP in the department. At least JC showed up and practiced.

There are different ways of being a leader. You can be a rah-rah type and be all up in people's faces or you can lead by example by being a good teammate, showing up to practice every day, attending all off season programs, and supporting your teammates by being positive and having a optimistic outlook rather than throwing them under the bus whenever you get a chance.

Extra practices with Kelly, Mitchell & Thomas this year to be on the same page. Do things without being told too.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

You have the wrong idea of what a leader is and when he leads. He just doesn't lead in games, he also is a leader in practice, outside of practice. He gets people in line doing and thinking the right way or the redskins way -- so that way, the players and even coaches trust that everyone is prepared to do their best in games.

Seems to be unfair to ask that of any one player, but that's what the quarterback to me needs to be - a leader, THE leader.

Sounds like a good explanation of a leader. Still I don't think that a leader could make up for the dysfunction that was the personnel along the O-line and the fact that guys like CP had the ability to undermine the authority he did have. Also keep in mind I'm not a JC supporter, I want Bradford in here with our first pick.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Sounds like a good explanation of a leader. Still I don't think that a leader could make up for the dysfunction that was the personnel along the O-line and the fact that guys like CP had the ability to undermine the authority he did have. Also keep in mind I'm not a JC supporter, I want Bradford in here with our first pick.

Even though our viewpoints differ, I can respect this -- since you have respected my point of view.

That's more than what I can say about others who don't share my opinion.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Do you think JC's leadership was a bigger problem than say the OL this year? Or would we have won more games if he was simply a more vocal, take charge kind of guy?

Yeah, it's like "crap this guy is yelling at us, man I guess that means I have to block now." Lol, I don't think thats how it works. I mean a guy whos a good leader can help give an extra spark or push, but usually that can only go so far.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Yeah, it's like "crap this guy is yelling at us, man I guess that means I have to block now." Lol, I don't think thats how it works. I mean a guy whos a good leader can help give an extra spark or push, but usually that can only go so far.

Please read my brief description of what a leader is. That would be a good starting point.