Shanahan The New Head Coach Of the Redskins

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

A little medicine for all of the 'same old Redskins' group, this is from an interview Adam Schefter did this morning on ESPN980:

"It's their show," Schefter said of Allen and Shanahan. "That's it. They're taking over. They're the men in charge right now, and they are responsible for the direction of this franchise moving forward. When Jim Zorn was dismissed this week, who did it? Bruce Allen. Not Dan Snyder. Bruce Allen. When Mike Shanahan was hired, who did it? Bruce Allen. So it's Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan running the show in Washington, with Dan Snyder watching from above, which is how it should be, which is how most successful organizations in football are run. You look at the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dan Rooney was there, he was a presence, he was aware of things, but he wasn't ultimately making decisions about what free agents to sign, and what players to draft, and what players to keep, and what players to cut. And it'll be the same thing in Washington."

Schefter has some good inside knowledge when it comes to Shanahan, so I think his take here carries significant weight.

I doubt Allen or Shanahan would have come here unless they were 110% sure that they would be calling the shots. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there is language in their contracts ensuring they have control and Snyder needs to keep his nose out of things.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Schefter has some good inside knowledge when it comes to Shanahan, so I think his take here carries significant weight.

I doubt Allen or Shanahan would have come here unless they were 110% sure that they would be calling the shots. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there is language in their contracts ensuring they have control and Snyder needs to keep his nose out of things.

I'm sure Marty thought the same thing when he signed. I'm sure Jim Zorn thought he would be calling plays when he signed. Last week Bruce Allen had "final say." This week, its Mike Shanahan. As far as Schefter, he's far from neutral and I wouldnt expect him to say anything else. I'm not beleiving Snyder's committed to staying out of things until I see it for an extended period of time.

[Landry44]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I'm sure Marty thought the same thing when he signed. I'm sure Jim Zorn thought he would be calling plays when he signed. Last week Bruce Allen had "final say." This week, its Mike Shanahan. As far as Schefter, he's far from neutral and I wouldnt expect him to say anything else. I'm not beleiving Snyder's committed to staying out of things until I see it for an extended period of time.

What are you basing this on? Do you have any evidence to support any of your rambles?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Landry44

What are you basing this on? Do you have any evidence to support any of your rambles?

A decade of history following the team.

[diehardskin2982]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A decade of history following the team.

Chad Dukes is that you, no maybe it's Lavar!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A decade of history following the team.

So you're saying the team is never going to change. Then why bother even commenting on these things? I think everyone is in wait and see mode, but you sound almost sure that this is going to fail.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you're saying the team is never going to change. Then why bother even commenting on these things? I think everyone is in wait and see mode, but you sound almost sure that this is going to fail.

Everyone is NOT in the wait and see mode. Everyone is drinking the koolaid. I would love if the Poll in this thread had an option for wait and see. its certainly where I would have casted my vote. I'm almost certain it will fail because this is too similar to the Marty and Gibbs situations and neither of those worked out. I think Shanahan-the-coach is the 2nd best option we could have gone. if I had to rate my happiness with that aspect of the hire, i'd probably say 8 out of 10. Its just his personnel history and the front office structure that i think is likely to screw this whole thing up.

Snyder may very well have changed and is now willing to leave the big decisions to "football guys." Bruce Allen may have somehow learned how to be a personnel guy. Shanahan may very well have learned how to be a personnel guy too. but given the histories of all three men in the areas i mentioned, I feel skepticism is appropriate in this situation.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Everyone is NOT in the wait and see mode. Everyone is drinking the koolaid. I would love if the Poll in this thread had an option for wait and see. its certainly where I would have casted my vote. I'm almost certain it will fail because this is too similar to the Marty and Gibbs situations and neither of those worked out. I think Shanahan-the-coach is the 2nd best option we could have gone. if I had to rate my happiness with that aspect of the hire, i'd probably say 8 out of 10. Its just his personnel history and the front office structure that i think is likely to screw this whole thing up.

Snyder may very well have changed and is now willing to leave the big decisions to "football guys." Bruce Allen may have somehow learned how to be a personnel guy. Shanahan may very well have learned how to be a personnel guy too. but given the histories of all three men in the areas i mentioned, I feel skepticism is appropriate in this situation.

I think Gibbs worked out. Vinny might have been an issue but I think DS and Gibbs had an understanding and got along. Gibbs left for several reasons I think. Partly due to stress over losing a player, partly his grandson's illness, partly cause he was not helping the team progress, and partly cause his Racing teams needed his guidance more. I think Tony Stewart left to start his own team and Gibbs had to look for a new Racer and probably some staff members to fill any vacancies from Stewarts leaving. I think Gibbs was just stressed out again. He left the first time due to that and I think he started feeling the stress again and said I can't do it again. Family first.

Marty is another story. He left. Marty took the one year job. Fired Vinny. Wrestled control with DS, and at the end of the season told DS I want total control of the team and front office and DS said no. Marty left. Quit.

It would be hard for any owner to relinquish total control. Most probably give up half or partial. Even today it's DS's property. He owns it, or atleast the majority of it. Giving up control to Allen whome he is not close with or too familiar with is probably hard. Then he brings in a HC that says if you want me I will have total control. DS learned from his mistake. He's giving control to Shanahan. He's letting go by simply hiring Shanahan.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Everyone is NOT in the wait and see mode. Everyone is drinking the koolaid. I would love if the Poll in this thread had an option for wait and see. its certainly where I would have casted my vote. I'm almost certain it will fail because this is too similar to the Marty and Gibbs situations and neither of those worked out. I think Shanahan-the-coach is the 2nd best option we could have gone. if I had to rate my happiness with that aspect of the hire, i'd probably say 8 out of 10. Its just his personnel history and the front office structure that i think is likely to screw this whole thing up.

Snyder may very well have changed and is now willing to leave the big decisions to "football guys." Bruce Allen may have somehow learned how to be a personnel guy. Shanahan may very well have learned how to be a personnel guy too. but given the histories of all three men in the areas i mentioned, I feel skepticism is appropriate in this situation.

Not true.

Today right at this moment, I'm happy with the moves we've made.

At the same time I am in wait and see mode. I'm not blind as to what we've seen here since Snyder bought the team. But taking everything for face value right at this moment, I think we've made good moves to change the direction of things. Nobody knows for sure how this story will end, but it's off to a good start.