The infamous swinging gate trick play

Counter-Tre · 12-31-2009, 10:38 AM

Hey guys, can someone please help me understand what was supposed to happen on that god-awful trick play the Skins ran against the Giants? Is there a video of a succesful swinging gate anywhere??

MTK · 12-31-2009, 10:38 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swingin...rican_football)

SolidSnake84 · 12-31-2009, 10:52 AM

Jon Gruden put it best....He had never seen something like that, and he hopes he never had to see it again.

Unbelievable that Zorn tried it the first time, Giants called time out...and then he did the exact same thing again...

tryfuhl · 12-31-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Jon Gruden put it best....He had never seen something like that, and he hopes he never had to see it again.

Unbelievable that Zorn tried it the first time, Giants called time out...and then he did the exact same thing again...

agreed on both points

MTK · 12-31-2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Jon Gruden put it best....He had never seen something like that, and he hopes he never had to see it again.

Unbelievable that Zorn tried it the first time, Giants called time out...and then he did the exact same thing again...

Well, he did the same thing earlier in the year on a trick play, I think on the Hunter Smith TD pass

GMScud · 12-31-2009, 12:51 PM

I don't believe I've ever seen a worse play in my life as a Redskins fan. It further cemented our status as a laughing stock team.

skinsfaninok · 12-31-2009, 12:55 PM

GMScud can't say it any better! EMBARRASING

Lotus · 12-31-2009, 02:02 PM

I thought that the play design was actually pretty good. It should have left Yoder or Davis wide open.

The problem was that it was a surprise play and the element of surprise was lost with the timeout we took. To me, it was a good play that was very poorly implemented.

To answer the question asked above, the swinging gate has been implemented successfully many times. My own high school team defeated our arch-rivals with the play. But in the NFL it is only going to work when combined with the element of surprise.

Counter-Tre · 01-01-2010, 09:26 PM

Gotcha. Thanks fellas!

ethat001 · 01-02-2010, 10:14 AM

Right. I agree w/all the above. Stupid call, stupid play.

Two main points:
1) EVERYONE knew what they were doing after the timeout. No suprise = don't try it again. Dumb call Zorn.

2) If we were set on going for it, why not get your QUARTERBACK to throw the ball into the endzone with a real play?? Do you really think Hunter Smith is a better passer (*without* an offensive line??). Give JC a chance!!!

Should've just kicked a field goal.

12-31-2009, 10:38 AM	#1
Counter-Tre Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Venice Beach, CA Age: 51 Posts: 345	The infamous swinging gate trick play Hey guys, can someone please help me understand what was supposed to happen on that god-awful trick play the Skins ran against the Giants? Is there a video of a succesful swinging gate anywhere??

12-31-2009, 10:38 AM	#2
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NY Age: 51 Posts: 99,424	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swingin...rican_football) __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-31-2009, 10:52 AM	#3
SolidSnake84 Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Stephens City, VA Posts: 2,947	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play Jon Gruden put it best....He had never seen something like that, and he hopes he never had to see it again. Unbelievable that Zorn tried it the first time, Giants called time out...and then he did the exact same thing again... __________________ Time to nut up or shut up

12-31-2009, 12:51 PM	#6
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play I don't believe I've ever seen a worse play in my life as a Redskins fan. It further cemented our status as a laughing stock team. __________________ Tardy

12-31-2009, 12:55 PM	#7
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 35,999	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play GMScud can't say it any better! EMBARRASING __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-31-2009, 02:02 PM	#8
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play I thought that the play design was actually pretty good. It should have left Yoder or Davis wide open. The problem was that it was a surprise play and the element of surprise was lost with the timeout we took. To me, it was a good play that was very poorly implemented. To answer the question asked above, the swinging gate has been implemented successfully many times. My own high school team defeated our arch-rivals with the play. But in the NFL it is only going to work when combined with the element of surprise. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

01-01-2010, 09:26 PM	#9
Counter-Tre Special Teams Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Venice Beach, CA Age: 51 Posts: 345	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play Gotcha. Thanks fellas!

01-02-2010, 10:14 AM	#10
ethat001 Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 920	Re: The infamous swinging gate trick play Right. I agree w/all the above. Stupid call, stupid play. Two main points: 1) EVERYONE knew what they were doing after the timeout. No suprise = don't try it again. Dumb call Zorn. 2) If we were set on going for it, why not get your QUARTERBACK to throw the ball into the endzone with a real play?? Do you really think Hunter Smith is a better passer (without an offensive line??). Give JC a chance!!! Should've just kicked a field goal.

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