Do you expect Zorn to be fired

GMScud · 10-11-2009, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ForkLifter

Do you have a link to the story?

No real link to post, he was asked on ESPN about the situation in DC, and he basically said it's not if Zorn will be cut loose, it's when.

SFREDSKIN · 10-11-2009, 11:20 PM

When the front office doesn't provide you with the right resources, then you are setting your HC to fail. Case in point, Vinny forgot that we have holes on our OL and goes on a shopping spree for an expensive DL and DB when he could have gotten help on the OL.

Longtimefan · 10-11-2009, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

When the front office doesn't provide you with the right resources, then you are setting your HC to fail. Case in point, Vinny forgot that we have holes on our OL and goes on a shopping spree for an expensive DL and DB when he could have gotten help on the OL.

I made the same point in an earlier thread last week. Someone responded, much to my amazement by saying "resources" or not, it Zorn's responsibility to get the job done. I'm still having a hard time trying to figure that one. Zorn SHOULD be able to make bricks out of straw..........or else.

SFREDSKIN · 10-11-2009, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I made the same point in an earlier thread last week. Someone responded, much to my amazement by saying "resources" or not, it Zorn's responsibility to get the job done. I'm still having a hard time trying to figure that one. Zorn SHOULD be able to make bricks out of straw..........or else.

We'll refer to Jim Zorn as Moses.

Longtimefan · 10-11-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

We'll refer to Jim Zorn as Moses.

I borrowed the phrase from the movie, thought it fit well with what is expected from Zorn.

SFREDSKIN · 10-11-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I borrowed the phrase from the movie, thought it fit well with what is expected from Zorn.

Zorn should ask Snyder to let his people go from Bondage

Longtimefan · 10-12-2009, 12:03 AM

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Zorn should ask Snyder to let his people go from Bondage

Snyder's heart is hardened.

PainTrainCHOOCHOO · 10-12-2009, 02:25 AM

As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs.

By the way I am new here!

Skinny Tee · 10-12-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PainTrainCHOOCHOO

As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs.

By the way I am new here!

Welcome to the board brah...

Sorry we couldn't meet under better circumstances.

PainTrainCHOOCHOO · 10-12-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Welcome to the board brah...

Sorry we couldn't meet under better circumstances.

Yeah Man...this seems like a legit board.

At this point, it seems like we have a wasted season on our hands. I say we start unloading and begin to put things back together (I hate using the word rebuild, kinda scary

). Hopefully, the root of our problem, Vinny Cerrato is gone, or at least relieved of his GM duties (or lack there of). Once Dan Snyder realizes that he is not a GM, nor is qualified to be a GM, then we can move on from there. I would like to see some positive changes, because not only is the Front Office in shambles, the locker room is in chaos

hooskins · 10-12-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PainTrainCHOOCHOO

As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs.

By the way I am new here!

I agree, Zorn is not the fault but it seems he will unfortunately be the scapegoat. I hope Gibbs told Danny boy to keep patient, not to keep Zorn, but to prevent the image of DC remaining as an unstable coaching destination.

Paintrain · 10-12-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PainTrainCHOOCHOO

As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs.

By the way I am new here!

Uh, can I sue for name infringement? Kidding, welcome to the board.

PainTrainCHOOCHOO · 10-13-2009, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

Uh, can I sue for name infringement? Kidding, welcome to the board.

HaHa ... didn't quite notice someone else on the board had almost exactly the same name..

tryfuhl · 10-12-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I made the same point in an earlier thread last week. Someone responded, much to my amazement by saying "resources" or not, it Zorn's responsibility to get the job done. I'm still having a hard time trying to figure that one. Zorn SHOULD be able to make bricks out of straw..........or else.

Teams that seem to be worse than us are beating us. So either their coaches are making it work.. or ours are doing more harm than good. Take it as you wish

GMScud · 10-11-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

When the front office doesn't provide you with the right resources, then you are setting your HC to fail. Case in point, Vinny forgot that we have holes on our OL and goes on a shopping spree for an expensive DL and DB when he could have gotten help on the OL.

I agree with that, but Zorn still seems overmatched as a playcaller and game manager. I think if given an opportunity with the right organizational structure and less on his plate (i.e. not having 3 job titles), he could succeed. Sadly, in his mid-50s, this was probably his only shot at being a HC in this league.

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10-11-2009, 11:20 PM	#2
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired When the front office doesn't provide you with the right resources, then you are setting your HC to fail. Case in point, Vinny forgot that we have holes on our OL and goes on a shopping spree for an expensive DL and DB when he could have gotten help on the OL. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

10-12-2009, 02:25 AM	#8
PainTrainCHOOCHOO Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The Land of Plenty Posts: 4	Re: Do you expect Zorn to be fired As long as Jim Zorn is the HC, I, and I would hope most fans be behind him. Although I am not a fan of his work and what he has done here, he is still our coach. Although firing a HC mid season isn't a good idea, our situation calls for change. The lack of a sense of urgency is what is killing this team. I personally don't think Jim Zorn stands a chance at finishing the season due to the way Dan Snyder deals with HC's in the past that aren't named Joe Gibbs. By the way I am new here!

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