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TheMalcolmConnection · 01-14-2005, 05:41 PM

I want the Plax and be able to use our draft pick on a beast DE and maybe select another great center later in the draft... I guess that would be my ideal off-season situation.

LongTimeSkinsFan · 01-14-2005, 09:21 PM

Question for the guys here: First off, I agree with DaSeal about the holes we need to fill at DE and C. I see the blocking TE as being more of an afterthought though and not a pressing matter to address. Let's say that we sign Muhammed or Burress and give Gardner his walking papers, does that mean you're willing to let Jacobs and Thrash play the same or less of a role?

Daseal · 01-14-2005, 10:50 PM

Personally I'd like to see Jacobs as our 3rd WR. I hope to see many more 3-4 WR sets this year. I feel our WRs are fairly solid all the way through, not as good as I thought they'd be this year, but we have a pretty deep bench. I say we rotate em in and wear the hell outta those DBs!

The blocking TE is a good pick for later in the draft. It's more of an extention of the offensive line than anything. Toss the guy a ball or two a game to keep the defense honest.

shallyshal · 01-14-2005, 11:31 PM

sorry, but i do not see it happening. first of all, he will cost a mint to sign. secondly he reminds me more of boston than TO and i would be leery of paying tremendous contracts for a guy who has really not put up that huge numbers. at least TO was productive his entire career before coming to philly.
if he is that important to pitts they will franchise tag him. if they do not, it should tell us something--- that they do not believe he is one of the top 5 receivers inthe game.
i would rather take a chance on mike williams, because his contract will be very cap friendly for the first several years. there will be nothing cp friendly about the contract that burress will sign.

LongTimeSkinsFan · 01-14-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

Personally I'd like to see Jacobs as our 3rd WR. I hope to see many more 3-4 WR sets this year. I feel our WRs are fairly solid all the way through, not as good as I thought they'd be this year, but we have a pretty deep bench. I say we rotate em in and wear the hell outta those DBs!

OK so then you're essentially keeping Jacobs and Thrash in the same roles that they had this year, but hoping that Gibbs would utilize them more. I was looking along the lines of drafting a WR, not a #1 or #2 but giving Jacobs a shot at #2 or is he not ready for that yet?

TheMalcolmConnection · 01-14-2005, 11:35 PM

I think that Jacobs would be a good #3. He is maturing just like Patrick Ramsey and I think it is only a matter of time before he has a breakout game. The kid has some WHEELZ.

SmootSmack · 01-14-2005, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LongTimeSkinsFan

OK so then you're essentially keeping Jacobs and Thrash in the same roles that they had this year, but hoping that Gibbs would utilize them more. I was looking along the lines of drafting a WR, not a #1 or #2 but giving Jacobs a shot at #2 or is he not ready for that yet?

I would say that Jacobs should be given a shot at #2 but then if that means that Coles and Jacobs are your top 2 aren't they very similar? Don't you need a big, possesion guy as one of your top receivers?

I think if we trade Gardner it shouldn't necessarily be to make room for another receiver not on our roster. I'd like to see Jacobs and McCants get more playing time, and a healthy Coles

GoSkins! · 01-15-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

I would say that Jacobs should be given a shot at #2 but then if that means that Coles and Jacobs are your top 2 aren't they very similar? Don't you need a big, possesion guy as one of your top receivers?
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Two speed guy work pretty well for St Louis.

I think that we have the guys we need at wide reciever. Think about it...
Coles - great receiver, should be healthier next season.
Thrash - did pretty well in Philly when asked to be the number one guy. Can certainly be asked to be the number 2 guy.
Jacobs - I think he is ready to make the push for the number 2 position and his speed will take some pressure of Coles.
Gardner - has the size we want and is in a make or break year. A good receiver, but probably not the number two guy anymore.

I think we trade our pick and get the guys we need for a monster o-line. o-lineman are less expensive, and with better blocking and protection for Ramsey, our receivers could have a great year.

Daseal · 01-15-2005, 11:53 AM

They "could' have a great year every year. Honestly, with this being a contract year for Rod I could wait for a WR. I'd like to trade our first pick away for two next year if that's the case. Let rod have a good year, and trade him away.

saden1 · 01-15-2005, 12:26 PM

I just want to know when the invasion of Canada is going to begin.

Daseal · 01-15-2005, 12:53 PM

haha, saden. Gardner has all the physical tools, and next year he knows every ball he drops means less money for him. I expect 0 drops!

saden1 · 01-15-2005, 01:12 PM

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Saden, who would rather have on your roster right now? Rod Gardner or Plaxico Burress?

If you're smart you'd rather have Plaxico. Right?

Plaxico is a timid fellow. He makes the great catches sometimes and misses that easy ones. Yeah, he is a bit better than Rod but not by much.

djnemo65 · 01-15-2005, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

The more I hear about the subject the more I think the Redskins should explore trying to sign Plexico Burress. Even though we have a high draft pick, Mike Williams is the only one I would feel real comfortable taking.

The whole Braylan Edwards diagnosis is a little too Gardener-esque for my taste. I don't want to say trade down for Williams, but I feel that if we don't pick up a good WR in free agency that Williams may be one of the best, if not the best, pick up in the draft at WR.

I disagree with what people have been saying about Edwards. He is a baller with a bright future in the NFL. Not only does he have the physical skills (which gardner had too of course so we know that's not enough) but he's a bigtime playmaker who can control the tempo of a game by himself. If anyone saw the game against michigan state, where michigan came back and won in OT, Edwards took control of that game on his own. They were double teaming him in the redzone, of course, and he was just shredding whatever they threw at him. I hope we take him, as I honestly believe he is gonna make it big time in the pros.

The only criticism is that he drops balls, but they said that about Jerry Rice too.

Daseal · 01-15-2005, 06:43 PM

I also like Edwards, but he does have a few Gardner like flaws. He also comes from the home of Desmond Howard.

aehs77 · 01-17-2005, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Daseal

He also comes from the home of Desmond Howard.

Well thats a plus

01-14-2005, 05:41 PM	#16
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,259	I want the Plax and be able to use our draft pick on a beast DE and maybe select another great center later in the draft... I guess that would be my ideal off-season situation. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-14-2005, 11:31 PM	#19
shallyshal Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 336	plaxico... sorry, but i do not see it happening. first of all, he will cost a mint to sign. secondly he reminds me more of boston than TO and i would be leery of paying tremendous contracts for a guy who has really not put up that huge numbers. at least TO was productive his entire career before coming to philly. if he is that important to pitts they will franchise tag him. if they do not, it should tell us something--- that they do not believe he is one of the top 5 receivers inthe game. i would rather take a chance on mike williams, because his contract will be very cap friendly for the first several years. there will be nothing cp friendly about the contract that burress will sign.

01-14-2005, 11:35 PM	#21
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,259	I think that Jacobs would be a good #3. He is maturing just like Patrick Ramsey and I think it is only a matter of time before he has a breakout game. The kid has some WHEELZ. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

01-14-2005, 09:21 PM	#17
LongTimeSkinsFan Impact Rookie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: LaVale MD Age: 62 Posts: 515	Question for the guys here: First off, I agree with DaSeal about the holes we need to fill at DE and C. I see the blocking TE as being more of an afterthought though and not a pressing matter to address. Let's say that we sign Muhammed or Burress and give Gardner his walking papers, does that mean you're willing to let Jacobs and Thrash play the same or less of a role?

01-14-2005, 10:50 PM	#18
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Personally I'd like to see Jacobs as our 3rd WR. I hope to see many more 3-4 WR sets this year. I feel our WRs are fairly solid all the way through, not as good as I thought they'd be this year, but we have a pretty deep bench. I say we rotate em in and wear the hell outta those DBs! The blocking TE is a good pick for later in the draft. It's more of an extention of the offensive line than anything. Toss the guy a ball or two a game to keep the defense honest.

01-15-2005, 11:53 AM	#24
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	They "could' have a great year every year. Honestly, with this being a contract year for Rod I could wait for a WR. I'd like to trade our first pick away for two next year if that's the case. Let rod have a good year, and trade him away.

01-15-2005, 12:26 PM	#25
saden1 MVP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Age: 45 Posts: 10,069	I just want to know when the invasion of Canada is going to begin.

01-15-2005, 12:53 PM	#26
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	haha, saden. Gardner has all the physical tools, and next year he knows every ball he drops means less money for him. I expect 0 drops!

01-15-2005, 06:43 PM	#29
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	I also like Edwards, but he does have a few Gardner like flaws. He also comes from the home of Desmond Howard.

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