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Old 05-22-2009, 02:44 PM   #1
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good team guy, but..... NO. too old, and not very productive
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Old 05-22-2009, 02:45 PM   #2
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good team guy, but..... NO. too old, and not very productive
20.5 sacks over the last 2 years isnt productive?
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Old 05-22-2009, 04:49 PM   #3
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20.5 sacks over the last 2 years isnt productive?
not to make it sound paltry but it's a 3-4
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Old 05-22-2009, 06:43 PM   #4
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not to make it sound paltry but it's a 3-4
....and your point is? I know its a 3-4 and the OLB rush more than a 4-3 but 20.5 sacks over a two year span for any player is great at this level.

Im not saying hes a great superstar player. Im just saying when someone says Ellis isnt very productive when he had 20.5 sacks over a 2 year span is laughable.
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....and your point is? I know its a 3-4 and the OLB rush more than a 4-3 but 20.5 sacks over a two year span for any player is great at this level.

Im not saying hes a great superstar player. Im just saying when someone says Ellis isnt very productive when he had 20.5 sacks over a 2 year span is laughable.
Don't get me wrong, I can definitely respect your point. You need to keep in mind my initial points in my initial post. He had a whopping 3.5 sacks over 14 games last year if not for the eagles and giants game. He is 34 and his production even in sacks was cut dramatically! He would not fit well in our system, and to trade ANY pick away for him would be stupid IMO. Time to keep our picks, and not trade them for oldies. Do you really want a guy that would likely get us 25 tackles and 3 sacks???
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Old 05-22-2009, 08:19 PM   #6
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Don't get me wrong, I can definitely respect your point. You need to keep in mind my initial points in my initial post. He had a whopping 3.5 sacks over 14 games last year if not for the eagles and giants game. He is 34 and his production even in sacks was cut dramatically! He would not fit well in our system, and to trade ANY pick away for him would be stupid IMO. Time to keep our picks, and not trade them for oldies. Do you really want a guy that would likely get us 25 tackles and 3 sacks???
I said in a earlier post I wouldnt trade for him unless it was a low pick. I wouldnt go trading the farm for a guy who is probably going to be released. Odds are though we wouldnt trade for him since he isnt a great fit here. I agree with all of that.

I dont like when people take stats and break them down. While its a great tidbit that he only had 3.5 sacks over 14 games the bottom line is he had 8 sacks last year. Hell id rather have a LB who had big games vs division rivals. A drop from 12.5 to 8 isnt dramatic imo.

Ellis is still a player who can make plays and it shouldnt take him too long to find another team if hes released. It just seems to me people look at his age and say he must be on the decline. Maybe he will hit that decline but as of right now with 20.5 sacks over the last 2 years he still can get to the QB as far as I know.
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I dont like when people take stats and break them down.
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20.5 sacks over the last 2 years isnt productive?
50 tackles over 2 seasons is not...and last I checked, we needs an OLB, not a DE.
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50 tackles over 2 seasons is not...and last I checked, we needs an OLB, not a DE.
No offense but if you read the whole thread and all my posts you would realize I know we need a OLB and not a DE.
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