Albert Haynesworth is a Redskin!!!!

[SkinzzFan]

I'm cautiously optimistic about this deal. I mean, we've seen it before. The Redskins go out and sign big names with little to no return. Make no mistake, I like both players on this defense (the DEs, LBs and DBs all just got better by adding AH) but we've been burned before. If this yields a perennial Superbowl contender and ultimately a Championship then great. If not, we're still just fans of the most frivilous sports team in America. I'm happy with the deal, but I want results (I know we all do). We've suffered long enough...it's time for a return to glory!

Hopefully they get cracking on that offensive line! Bring back Dock!!

I appreciate those who ensured this was posted as soon as the news broke...I tend to look here before I log onto any other sites as the Warpath always has info from credible sources.

HAIL!!

[Ade Jimoh Fan Club]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Oh God....here we go.

Soul-Skins: I hope I'm wrong. I really do. But this one doesn't smell like a good deal...

[44ever]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

Dana Stubblefield?

Man don't even whisper that. He better not Stubb. Thats went through my mind a time or two.

[MdBluefinCrab]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Look at the past teams that picked up big name free agents the last few years. Cleveland spent a ton of money last year and didn't make the playoffs. Shawn Rogers was a bust. What about the Jets? They spent a ton of money and didn't make the playoffs. What abou the year before? SF spent a lot of money and never made the playoffs. Just cause you bring in a talented player doesn't automatically mean that the player will play well in his new system. AH only knows Tenn's defense and their system. Perhaps he doesn't fit well with what Blache and co does. As I said, history shows it doesn't work.

Nothing is guaranteed but he is the best player available at our weakest position on defense.
New system? Blache is still using Gregg Williams defensive scheme that was carried over from Tennesee. The Titans still run basically the same scheme (Gregg Williams) that Haynesworth has excelled in for the last 7 years, so I don't see a problem with him "fitting in".
Like I said, nothing is guaranteed but this was a very good move by the Little Danny and his sidekick Vinny.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by MdBluefinCrab

Nothing is guaranteed but he is the best player available at our weakest position on defense.
New system? Blache is still using Gregg Williams defensive scheme that was carried over from Tennesee. The Titans still run basically the same scheme (Gregg Williams) that Haynesworth has excelled in for the last 7 years, so I don't see a problem with him "fitting in".
Like I said, nothing is guaranteed but this was a very good move by the Little Danny and his sidekick Vinny.

Might be time to change your sig Crab I hope.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I don't want to be a downer but I would like to be the voice of reason.

Is anyone old enough to remember the Dana Stubblefield and Dan Wilkinson signing years ago?...Don't get too excited for Haynesworth yet because he has yet to show what he can do in OUR system.

We got two stallwort DT's with Stubby and Wilkinson and their effect on our defense was minimal. Haynesworth is one person and subject to the scheme that he plays in.

Let's have some tempered realism with our expectations.

Fair point, but free agent DTs Dave Butz, Tim Johnson, and Cornelius Griffin did pretty well for us when we signed them

[MdBluefinCrab]

Originally Posted by 44ever

Might be time to change your sig Crab I hope.

lol, yeah it might be but let's see what Vinny does about shoring up our biggest need...the offensive line. It's been known for the last 2-3 years that our line needed upgrading, big time and they just kept ignoring it and when Vinny said that he doesn't draft for need, that was the nail in his coffin for me.
So far so good though and it's still early in the FA market. Hopefully Vinny WILL draft for need this year and get the offensive line fixed.

[Hog1]

A good point was just introduced on ESPN in DC re: AH. He is the number one pick in the FA market. Highly sought by several other teams. The FA big money busts in the past have all been in the.......twilight of their careers, and not especially coveted by the other teams. Not so in this case

[JWsleep]

Wow... Well, we'll see! I worry about motivation, but he's clearly got the talent.

This is pretty much a make or break move for Vinny, IMO. And that's good as well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Look at the past teams that picked up big name free agents the last few years. Cleveland spent a ton of money last year and didn't make the playoffs. Shawn Rogers was a bust. What about the Jets? They spent a ton of money and didn't make the playoffs. What abou the year before? SF spent a lot of money and never made the playoffs. Just cause you bring in a talented player doesn't automatically mean that the player will play well in his new system. AH only knows Tenn's defense and their system. Perhaps he doesn't fit well with what Blache and co does. As I said, history shows it doesn't work.

Huh? Yeah the Browns as a team were a bust last year but Rogers was a pure beast for them and was in the Pro Bowl.

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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Look at the past teams that picked up big name free agents the last few years. Cleveland spent a ton of money last year and didn't make the playoffs. Shawn Rogers was a bust. What about the Jets? They spent a ton of money and didn't make the playoffs. What abou the year before? SF spent a lot of money and never made the playoffs. Just cause you bring in a talented player doesn't automatically mean that the player will play well in his new system. AH only knows Tenn's defense and their system. Perhaps he doesn't fit well with what Blache and co does. As I said, history shows it doesn't work.

The Jets didn't make the playoff because Brett Favre threw a whole bunch of interceptions at the end of the season. I think they fielded a decent defense, given how competitive the AFC East was this past season.

Shawn Rogers was not necessarily a bust, and just like us, the Browns had their offensive issues as well (remember Braylon Edwards dropping all those passes?).

And I think the 49ers were giving up on their coach this year, yet don't forget that they were a few games away from being the AZ Cardinals.

[JWDundees]

I would have rather grabbed Canty...re-signed Hall...then get Dockery. From a locker room standpoint...is London Fletcher still going to be able to be a leader...or are Hall and AH going to be like F off old man we get paid more. Same thing with Chris Samuels and all those other guys that restructured. They broke their you know whats for this franchise...took pay cuts...then watch two punks...(and they are punks lets not beat around the bush here) get paid more than they have ever seen. I thought we were on the right path last year by building through the draft and grabbing small pieces in FA to enhance the team. Here we go again.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I havent read all 6 pages here, but on ESPN980 this morning, Cerrato said Haynesworth took less money to come here than he was being offered by another team (presumably Tampa Bay.) Now, we can't necessarily beleive this because, of course, Cerrato wants to give fans the impression we got a great player and at a "bargain." However, if Cerrato can be beleived, then it gives me hope that Hyanesworth is not all about the money. He's getting a ton of money, but he wanted to come somewhere:

1) In the spotlight. Haynesworth certainly wouldnt want to be in the spotlight if he had the intention of being a lazy SOB who didnt try.

2) Where he feels he has a chance to win.

Perhaps Haynesworth will play at - or above - the level he did in Tennessee for the next 2-3 years. It certainly sounds like we plan on using him sparingly. Cerrato said he anticipated Haynesworth to participate in 55-60% of the plays here, and that we plan to move him all over the line.

[birdz4gibbs]

i,m alright with the signing of haynesworth but the money is another story...again we do nat..eed a stud at DT this is our answer to that..

wait and see..