More Complications: Mike Williams Enters Draft

Phinehas · 02-25-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by raleighskinsfan

My dream situation here would be if we could trade down a few spots and still pick up either Sean Taylor or Kenechi Udeze and receive an additional second round pick where we could pick up a good D tackle... what would you guys think of that??

Absolutely, but are Detroit or Cleveland likely to have much more interest in Rothlisberger or Williams than we do?

I think we should trade down anyway, but if we could still pick up Sean Taylor, that would be incredible.

--Phin

Gmanc711 · 02-25-2004, 06:57 PM

Cleveland sure as hell should have a interest in both of them. They need both of those positions, I would think. Detriot has a frachise WR and QB in Rogers and Harrington, so I think they would take Taylor in a heartbeat. I think we would still have a chance for Udeze even as far as the 12-15 range.

Phinehas · 02-25-2004, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Detriot has a frachise WR and QB in Rogers and Harrington, so I think they would take Taylor in a heartbeat.

Which may explain why they turned luke-warm on the Bailey trade. If they draft Taylor and pick up one of the many decent CB's in free agency, their secondary is still greatly improved. Didn't it seem like their interest waned right around the time the rumours about Williams entering the draft started to surface? Maybe they did some draft math and figured they had a really good shot at Taylor.

And although Udeze would be a good pickup at 12-15, I still think Taylor is likely to be much more of an impact player. Seeing him in a Redskin uniform would be awesome, but we really need to trade down for an extra pick. It would be great if we could do both, but I supose it is pretty unlikely.

--Phin

Gmanc711 · 02-25-2004, 07:19 PM

I agree 100%, I personally want us to just keep our #5 and take taylor. But I know, eventually we have to stop this draft trading nonsense and just have a full draft.

Sniper 1 · 02-25-2004, 07:20 PM

In my opinion we cannot pass on Sean Taylor. This guy has Ronnie Lott written all over him and would be the best defensive player on the team immediately, including LaVar.

skinsfanthru&thru · 02-27-2004, 03:15 AM

You know that when the portis/bailey deal gets finalized, we will atleast be more than 60% likely to trade our first rounder for more picks. I'd like to see taylor as a skin as much as all of you guys but I honestly don't see it happening. Plus a lot of what happens depends on how well Snyder and Gibbs woo free agents in the next couple weeks cuz if we fill our needs on the d-line, why would we still use picks on udeze or anyone else on the line? I think Gardner needs to be traded for a 2nd round pick atleast, dropped way too many easy catches the past couple years, and if we trade down in the 10-20 range I say we take Mike or Roy Williams if they are still on the board which according to a lot of experts may happen. Then with our other picks, we try to get a center like J. Grove of Virginia Tech and a cb. I don't what other safeties are in the draft or coming up in the free agency market, does anyone else know? I like Ohalete but he missed a lot of assignments last year and bit on quite a play fakes if I remember correctly so I think we need to upgrade over him. it's too bad spurrier took his boy Jacobs and not drafted a need pick like Mike Doss.

Daseal · 02-27-2004, 08:06 AM

Once the KNOWN offseason moves are done I feel our offense is more than balanced, with the exception of a center, but every team will have a few weak points. THat's one we definitly need fixed soon, but I can deal with it in the first year of yet another rebuilding type season.

On Defense we need line and secondary help. I feel that we're going to get FA's for both. As much as I'll miss our picks, I see them as luxury since we always do a good job in FA. Taylor is the closest thing to a sure thing in this years draft. I'd draft him with the first and draft best available with tthe 5th!

I'd deal players for other picks, but I wouldn't get rid of Sean Taylor. If he's not there, trade it down. I think our line will have plenty of talent come March 4th.

diehardskin2982 · 02-27-2004, 01:47 PM

The senario will be like this we want to draft a center...

I know every one is like huh? :confused: but its true, so we will trade down alot. I'd love to take Sean Taylor but we won't we'll get alot of picks in the later rounds and solve the hole in the LB positon and Safeties. As for the dline we will go through FA.

Maybe the skins will prove me wrong and take Taylor but I doubt it

02-25-2004, 06:57 PM	#2
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	Cleveland sure as hell should have a interest in both of them. They need both of those positions, I would think. Detriot has a frachise WR and QB in Rogers and Harrington, so I think they would take Taylor in a heartbeat. I think we would still have a chance for Udeze even as far as the 12-15 range. __________________ #21

02-25-2004, 07:19 PM	#4
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	I agree 100%, I personally want us to just keep our #5 and take taylor. But I know, eventually we have to stop this draft trading nonsense and just have a full draft. __________________ #21

02-25-2004, 07:20 PM	#5
Sniper 1 Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Damascus, Md. Posts: 3	In my opinion we cannot pass on Sean Taylor. This guy has Ronnie Lott written all over him and would be the best defensive player on the team immediately, including LaVar.

02-27-2004, 03:15 AM	#6
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 45 Posts: 3,814	You know that when the portis/bailey deal gets finalized, we will atleast be more than 60% likely to trade our first rounder for more picks. I'd like to see taylor as a skin as much as all of you guys but I honestly don't see it happening. Plus a lot of what happens depends on how well Snyder and Gibbs woo free agents in the next couple weeks cuz if we fill our needs on the d-line, why would we still use picks on udeze or anyone else on the line? I think Gardner needs to be traded for a 2nd round pick atleast, dropped way too many easy catches the past couple years, and if we trade down in the 10-20 range I say we take Mike or Roy Williams if they are still on the board which according to a lot of experts may happen. Then with our other picks, we try to get a center like J. Grove of Virginia Tech and a cb. I don't what other safeties are in the draft or coming up in the free agency market, does anyone else know? I like Ohalete but he missed a lot of assignments last year and bit on quite a play fakes if I remember correctly so I think we need to upgrade over him. it's too bad spurrier took his boy Jacobs and not drafted a need pick like Mike Doss.

02-27-2004, 08:06 AM	#7
Daseal Puppy Kicker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arlington, Virginia Age: 42 Posts: 8,341	Once the KNOWN offseason moves are done I feel our offense is more than balanced, with the exception of a center, but every team will have a few weak points. THat's one we definitly need fixed soon, but I can deal with it in the first year of yet another rebuilding type season. On Defense we need line and secondary help. I feel that we're going to get FA's for both. As much as I'll miss our picks, I see them as luxury since we always do a good job in FA. Taylor is the closest thing to a sure thing in this years draft. I'd draft him with the first and draft best available with tthe 5th! I'd deal players for other picks, but I wouldn't get rid of Sean Taylor. If he's not there, trade it down. I think our line will have plenty of talent come March 4th.

02-27-2004, 01:47 PM	#8
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	The senario will be like this we want to draft a center... I know every one is like huh? :confused: but its true, so we will trade down alot. I'd love to take Sean Taylor but we won't we'll get alot of picks in the later rounds and solve the hole in the LB positon and Safeties. As for the dline we will go through FA. Maybe the skins will prove me wrong and take Taylor but I doubt it

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