Obama Clinches Democratic Nomination

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It has to be about more than speeches. What is so different about Obama's platform from previous democratic platforms? What has Obama done in his brief time as a legislator to accomplish, or at the very least, mobilize change?

I think that is THE definitive question of the upcoming election.

Obama seems to me a lot of sizzle and no steak. The only thing that I can say with any degree of certainty that he does well is make speeches. Granted that's 180 degrees better than Bush, who finds difficulty pronouncing nuclear, but it's not enough to warrant a vote in November. I just don't see the reason for all of the hype. What I am afraid is going to happen, is all of the "hope" and "change" that's being bandied about as if it were a new concept is going to come crashing down upon all of these supposedly newly energized americans that are his base. What happens when all of these vague promises don't amount to anything more than the status quo? Even greater numbers of disillusioned citizens who will find it that much more difficult to get excited or hopeful about anything pertaining to government in the future.

While you can level much of the above at Clinton and McCain, I didn't hear nearly as much hyperbole coming out of their camps. It's going to get a whole lot uglier before it gets better. I'd like to see someone elected who has the fortitude to admit that upfront and then present a clear vision to get us through it. I think we've all had enough of empty promises at best and blatant lies at worst. I'd like to see something from Obama's past to indicate this isn't more of the same.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Granted that's 180 degrees better than Bush, who finds difficulty pronouncing nuclear,

Don't mis-underestimate Bush, it' part of his strategery.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Don't mis-underestimate Bush, it' part of his strategery.

At least we can be guaranteed that our next President won't flat out embarrass himself every time he opens his mouth. But then again Saturday Night Live just won't be the same.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

At least we can be guaranteed that our next President won't flat out embarrass himself every time he opens his mouth. But then again Saturday Night Live just won't be the same.

You're 100% right. LOL. Will Ferrell did a fantastic Bush impression, no one has done it better. I also agree on Obama or McCain, I don't think either will give SNL too much fuel for the fire.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You're 100% right. LOL. Will Ferrell did a fantastic Bush impression, no one has done it better. I also agree on Obama or McCain, I don't think either will give SNL too much fuel for the fire.

That was the one reason I was secretly hoping for Hilary to win. SNL would have been great because they would have been able to bring out Bill every week. Darrell Hammond does a great impression of him.

[saden1]

I don't think anyone can top Bush but this speech is borderline...maybe it's just me? What is he trying to say? Is he really smiling (starts at 1:30 sec)? Does anything he say line-up with his voting record?

[saden1]

When Fox News is trashing you, it's got to be awful!

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by saden1

I don't think anyone can top Bush but this speech is borderline...maybe it's just me? What is he trying to say? Is he really smiling (starts at 1:30 sec)? Does anything he say line-up with his voting record?

I think Obama has just topped Bush in terms of speaking.



And no I'm not doing this out of support of McCain because he is almost as bad as Obama.