The official 2008 draft discussion thread

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I don't disagree with your assessment, but because of the cap hits Moss and ARE go nowhere before 2010.

Are you serious? You don't disagree that Moss is at best an average wide receiver? Did you watch any games last year after he got back to being healthy? Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys? I'm glad fans don't evaluate talent for this team at any level other than internet posts.

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Are you serious? You don't disagree that Moss is at best an average wide receiver? Did you watch any games last year after he got back to being healthy? Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys? I'm glad fans don't evaluate talent for this team at any level other than internet posts.

One receiver alone cannot make an impact. All season we were limited in our WR's. Those games you speak of Moss did perform "average" but that was with another under 6' tall reciver who is not as fast as him on the other side. Moss is an asset and you will see that now that he has an opportunity to play without being double teamed. You cant pass judgement on him based on last season. I am almost certain you will be puting ketchup on and eating your post for lunch next season.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

if we have to move some picks to move up here in the third and nab a decent OL or CB prospect...I will not mind, anyone else?

[Stuck in TX]

Originally Posted by AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace

if we have to move some picks to move up here in the third and nab a decent OL or CB prospect...I will not mind, anyone else?

Yeah same here but I would rather get a DE, CB, and O-line in that order.

[AlvinWalton'sNeckBrace]

Originally Posted by Stuck in TX

Yeah same here but I would rather get a DE, CB, and O-line in that order.

yeah, but its my understanding that there aren't any quality DE prospects left...anyone you can name?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Are you serious? You don't disagree that Moss is at best an average wide receiver? Did you watch any games last year after he got back to being healthy? Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys? I'm glad fans don't evaluate talent for this team at any level other than internet posts.

My how times have changed around here. I remember not too long ago there was a thread about how Randy Moss was done and Santana was better.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Are you serious? You don't disagree that Moss is at best an average wide receiver? Did you watch any games last year after he got back to being healthy? Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys? I'm glad fans don't evaluate talent for this team at any level other than internet posts.

Are you an NFL scout? Or are you just a fan who evaluates talent and posts your views on the internet? If your house is made of glass......

I think Moss has the ability to be dominant when healthy. In those last three games you mention Moss had 15 catches for 271 yards. That works out to a 16 game pace of 80 catches for 1445 yards. I distinctly remember Moss making great adjustments on the ball on two passes thrown along the sideline in the Giants game. I should mentioned that Moss caught 3 balls for 75 yards (a 25 yard avg.) on a night when Collins barely threw because it was so windy. I also remember Moss making a great adjustment on the ball and beating Vikings CB Marcus McCauley for a TD.

Moss undoubtedly has the initial explosiveness off the line, the straight-line speed, and agility you'd like to see from a burner. Moss is excellent at adjusting to the ball. Moss' only real problem is that he has trouble staying healthy (which is, admittedly, a big problem).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Are you an NFL scout? Or are you just a fan who evaluates talent and posts your views on the internet? I'm not trying to be a d^&k, but if your house is made of glass......

I think Moss has the ability to be dominant when healthy. In those last three games you mentioned Moss had 15 catches for 271 yards. That works out to a 16 game pace of 80 catches for 1445 yards. I distinctly remember Moss making great adjustments on the ball on two passes thrown along the sideline in the Giants game. I should mentioned that Moss caught 3 balls for 75 yards (a 25 yard avg.) on a night when Collins barely threw because it was so windy. I also remember Moss making a great adjustment on the ball and beating Vikings CB Marcus McCauley for a TD.

Moss undoubtedly has the initial explosiveness off the line, the straight-line speed, and agility you'd like to see from a burner. Moss is excellent at adjusting to the ball. Moss' only real problem is that he has trouble staying healthy (which is, admittedly, a big problem).

That's the key point right there. People want to keep pointing to 2005 to say what Moss is capable of but the reality is the guy has serious problems staying on the field. ARE was also dinged at times last year and I think most agree he's best suited for the slot role anyway.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

That's the key point right there. People want to keep pointing to 2005 to say what Moss is capable of but the reality is the guy has serious problems staying on the field.

I wasn't attacking the Redskins' decision to draft 2 wideouts and a TE. I was simply disagreeing with the statement that Moss is an average receiver at best when healthy.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Are you serious? You don't disagree that Moss is at best an average wide receiver? Did you watch any games last year after he got back to being healthy? Bears, Giants, Vikings, Cowboys? I'm glad fans don't evaluate talent for this team at any level other than internet posts.

I guess I should clarify my post. Moss is below average for a #1, above average as an overall WR in the NFL. A four game stretch doesn't make a season. If he's going to be injured or "slowed by injury" for 12 games how does that help us.

Moss was 18th in YDs, 20th in receptions, and only had 3 TDs. Very pedestrian for a #1 WR. I do agree with you on one point...I am glad fans (looking through Burgundy and Gold colored glasses) don't evaluate talent for us.