Portis or Westbrook?

SammyBaughFan · 04-01-2008, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No need to get all worked up...dewd

Every time I wants to talk about my world famous recipes and share the talent that the Lord has blessed me with, you guys always try to get me to shut up. Well I ain't shutting up no more. I'll talk ribs, chicken, poop sandwiches or whatever whenevr I want.

SmootSmack · 04-01-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SammyBaughFan

Every time I wants to talk about my world famous recipes and share the talent that the Lord has blessed me with, you guys always try to get me to shut up. Well I ain't shutting up no more. I'll talk ribs, chicken, poop sandwiches or whatever whenevr I want.

Fine. Whatever.

Can we get back on topic now?

saden1 · 04-01-2008, 11:34 AM

Oh god, this too funny...i'm dying from laughter.

SammyBaughFan · 04-01-2008, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by saden1

Oh god, this too funny...i'm dying from laughter.

I know. Aren't these guys ridicules? A little over the top with the moderating.

PWNED · 04-01-2008, 11:56 AM

lame mike. lame.

Monkeydad · 04-01-2008, 01:06 PM

It's hard to compare the two. They play on two completely different kinds of teams.

Portis is an important player but he's not relied upon to be THE ENTIRE OFFENSE. If we lose Portis, we can still win. If they lose Westbrook, they're toast. This has less to do with the individual players' talents and more to do with the workload they're assigned and how Westbrook can have success with the types of plays they call for him (a lot of passes out of backfield). Portis could probably succeed anywhere because he can take a tough running workload OR a role like Westbrook's because he can run, catch and even pass the ball well. But could Westbrook be as good on a team that would use him as a 30+ carry guy? Probably not, he has an injury history even with his 15-carry workload.

If Portis were in Philly, he could easily match and probably surpass Westbrook's production. If Westbrook had to play for Gibbs and carry more, he'd probably do OK, but not as well.

So, I believe Portis is a better RB because he can be a true RB as well as Westbrook's "Utility" role of RB/WR. I don't believe Westbrook could cut it for an extended period of time outside of Philly.

Yes, he's vitally important to their success, but only because they have the offensive gameplan solely based on his strengths and talents. Not every team can/wants to/needs to do that. Portis could succeed anywhere.

Monkeydad · 04-01-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That sounds delicious, bet it looks and tastes great too. But it's a bit off topic here.

Check the date. Going off-topic is not only allowed today, it's encouraged.

pbar67 · 04-04-2008, 10:24 PM

portis

DynamiteRave · 04-04-2008, 10:50 PM

lol I can only hope this thread gets to the potential of the GeneParmeasan thread.

Btw, Portis > Westbrook

Campbell17 · 04-05-2008, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pbar67

portis

thats it?? give some reasoning...

skinsfanzg18 · 04-05-2008, 02:22 PM

westbrook is so much better this is an easy one.

WaldSkins · 04-05-2008, 03:29 PM

Portis hands down. Lets compare Portis pre-redskins to westbrook when he ran the west coast in Denver. Im sure every one would choose Portis.
The way Gibbs ran the offense should not count against Portis, our play calling was terribly predictable. Go back and look at all the game day post. Everyone was complaining about play calling- Run, Run, Pass, Punt. Run, Run,Pass, Punt all in a tight i-formation. Portis has carried this team on and off the field.

Theres no comparison to whom the better back is. After this year compare the two backs. Under our new offense Portis will have his best year as a Redskin.

SeanTaylor21 · 04-06-2008, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanzg18

westbrook is so much better this is an easy one.

Your joking right?
Portis is better at breaking tackles, blocking, in between tackles, outside tackles, catching, clutch, leadership, and production.

TrustinGibbs · 04-06-2008, 04:52 PM

Portis is the best blocking tail back I have ever seen in 35+ years of watching NFL football. If you want to disreguard that thats fine but I'm absolutely sure Redskins QB's and WR's put tremendously high value in it. His blocking for his teammates makes the statement that he is all about himself completely ridiculous. Alot of back wont even stick there nose in there and block and even those who do dont do it as well as he does.

To me Portis is the best all-around back in the NFL. He does it all. He can run between the tackles(much better then Westbrook), run outside, catch and block. No on puts the complete package together better then Portics does IMO. He may only be the best at blocking but he's pretty darn good at everything else as well.

Take away the predictibility of Gibb's offense and you'll see a whole new Clinton Portis. He'll get the ball in different spots and in better areas to succeed. You wont know what is coming like has been the case these past few seasons. I respect Gibbs but his smash mouth football wasn't as successful in term two because the athletes are so much bigger/faster/quicker then they were during his first stint as Skin's coach.

Portis will have a huge year this season. Westbrook is more elusive(or seems so) because he is in a situation where the Eagles offense is designed to get him the ball in space. Portis hasn't had that since he played in Denver. Get Portis the ball in space like Westbrook gets it and he'll be equally effective if not moreso on big plays. Portis alread is better at grinding it out and blocking. It's hard to tell if he is better or worse at recieving because Gibbs rarely threw him the ball and when they did it was as a safty valve not as a primary reciever. Portis is also a much stronger runner.

All things taken into account Portis is a better back then Westbrook.

prinzeofmoval · 04-07-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

Id rather have Portis. Portis is the better blocker, the better runner, and the better red zone threat. The only thing I think Westbrook does better is catch. I feel like Portis ran behind a worse line than Westbrook did last year, and if everyone is healthy on our O-line this year, I think Portis will have the better season. It would be cool having Westbrook be a skin though cause he went to high school in this area (I think Dematha in moco)

And thats the truth ruth

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04-01-2008, 01:06 PM	#66
Monkeydad Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: PA Age: 45 Posts: 17,460	Re: Portis or Westbrook? It's hard to compare the two. They play on two completely different kinds of teams. Portis is an important player but he's not relied upon to be THE ENTIRE OFFENSE. If we lose Portis, we can still win. If they lose Westbrook, they're toast. This has less to do with the individual players' talents and more to do with the workload they're assigned and how Westbrook can have success with the types of plays they call for him (a lot of passes out of backfield). Portis could probably succeed anywhere because he can take a tough running workload OR a role like Westbrook's because he can run, catch and even pass the ball well. But could Westbrook be as good on a team that would use him as a 30+ carry guy? Probably not, he has an injury history even with his 15-carry workload. If Portis were in Philly, he could easily match and probably surpass Westbrook's production. If Westbrook had to play for Gibbs and carry more, he'd probably do OK, but not as well. So, I believe Portis is a better RB because he can be a true RB as well as Westbrook's "Utility" role of RB/WR. I don't believe Westbrook could cut it for an extended period of time outside of Philly. Yes, he's vitally important to their success, but only because they have the offensive gameplan solely based on his strengths and talents. Not every team can/wants to/needs to do that. Portis could succeed anywhere.

04-04-2008, 10:24 PM	#68
pbar67 Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 13	Re: Portis or Westbrook? portis

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DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: Portis or Westbrook? lol I can only hope this thread gets to the potential of the GeneParmeasan thread. Btw, Portis > Westbrook __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

04-05-2008, 02:22 PM	#71
skinsfanzg18 Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Washington DC Posts: 31	Re: Portis or Westbrook? westbrook is so much better this is an easy one. __________________ "I just kind of wished and dreamed, and hoped, and you know, fourtunatley--god willingly, I got that chance with the Redskins." -Sean Taylor #21 Hail.

04-05-2008, 03:29 PM	#72
WaldSkins Playmaker Join Date: May 2007 Location: Harrisburg, PA Age: 41 Posts: 2,726	Re: Portis or Westbrook? Portis hands down. Lets compare Portis pre-redskins to westbrook when he ran the west coast in Denver. Im sure every one would choose Portis. The way Gibbs ran the offense should not count against Portis, our play calling was terribly predictable. Go back and look at all the game day post. Everyone was complaining about play calling- Run, Run, Pass, Punt. Run, Run,Pass, Punt all in a tight i-formation. Portis has carried this team on and off the field. Theres no comparison to whom the better back is. After this year compare the two backs. Under our new offense Portis will have his best year as a Redskin.

04-06-2008, 04:52 PM	#74
TrustinGibbs Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Wilmington, NC Age: 60 Posts: 104	Re: Portis or Westbrook? Portis is the best blocking tail back I have ever seen in 35+ years of watching NFL football. If you want to disreguard that thats fine but I'm absolutely sure Redskins QB's and WR's put tremendously high value in it. His blocking for his teammates makes the statement that he is all about himself completely ridiculous. Alot of back wont even stick there nose in there and block and even those who do dont do it as well as he does. To me Portis is the best all-around back in the NFL. He does it all. He can run between the tackles(much better then Westbrook), run outside, catch and block. No on puts the complete package together better then Portics does IMO. He may only be the best at blocking but he's pretty darn good at everything else as well. Take away the predictibility of Gibb's offense and you'll see a whole new Clinton Portis. He'll get the ball in different spots and in better areas to succeed. You wont know what is coming like has been the case these past few seasons. I respect Gibbs but his smash mouth football wasn't as successful in term two because the athletes are so much bigger/faster/quicker then they were during his first stint as Skin's coach. Portis will have a huge year this season. Westbrook is more elusive(or seems so) because he is in a situation where the Eagles offense is designed to get him the ball in space. Portis hasn't had that since he played in Denver. Get Portis the ball in space like Westbrook gets it and he'll be equally effective if not moreso on big plays. Portis alread is better at grinding it out and blocking. It's hard to tell if he is better or worse at recieving because Gibbs rarely threw him the ball and when they did it was as a safty valve not as a primary reciever. Portis is also a much stronger runner. All things taken into account Portis is a better back then Westbrook.

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