Now that Favre is officially done, where does he rank all time?

[dmek25]

i would be hard pressed to find that many qbacks better then Favre. to me, no way Peyton Manning is better. maybe Montana. its really hard to judge the old school guys. they were all tough as nails, considering the amount of punishment they had to take, often after the ball was released. on top of that, they also had to call their own plays. guys like Baugh playing both ways. to me, Marino was nothing more then pistol pete, passing 40-50 times a game, to inflate his stats. in my eyes, it was always about him, not the dolphins.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i would be hard pressed to find that many qbacks better then Favre. to me, no way Peyton Manning is better. maybe Montana. its really hard to judge the old school guys. they were all tough as nails, considering the amount of punishment they had to take, often after the ball was released. on top of that, they also had to call their own plays. guys like Baugh playing both ways. to me, Marino was nothing more then pistol pete, passing 40-50 times a game, to inflate his stats. in my eyes, it was always about him, not the dolphins.

Are you asserting that:

1) Marino called his own plays?

and

2) He was more worried about playing from behind to inflate his numbers than winning?

Maybe I'm confused on what you are saying here, but I think you'll have a hell of a time doing anything to substanciate either of those claims. I have never heard anyone argue before that better production somehow was counter-productive to winning.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i would be hard pressed to find that many qbacks better then Favre. to me, no way Peyton Manning is better. maybe Montana. its really hard to judge the old school guys. they were all tough as nails, considering the amount of punishment they had to take, often after the ball was released. on top of that, they also had to call their own plays. guys like Baugh playing both ways. to me, Marino was nothing more then pistol pete, passing 40-50 times a game, to inflate his stats. in my eyes, it was always about him, not the dolphins.

Marino is pistol Pete ,, and Favre ISN'T a " gunslinger " ? How many times did Marino throw up a duck and cost his team a playoff game ? I have no problem with anyone putting Favre at or near the top , but the Elway and Marino are overrated crowd ,, stunning ?