Brunell is killing Portis

[That Guy]

ramsey's int % may have been slightly higher, but his turnover % was way way lower... brunell fumbles inside the 30 A LOT...

Originally Posted by SUNRA

If your'e gonna mention every game that Brunell has played in this year and say he hasn't been able to throw the ball down field, then what in the hell did he do against Dallas? I mean his connection to Gardner was exceptional and he deserved the credit for avoiding the sack and throwing the last TD to Gardner. See it's easy to point the finger at the QB when the passing game isn't successful. Gibbs has admitted that he is partly responsible with that problem. Gibbs is sending only two receivers on routes that make it easy to double cover them. He needs to get back to stacking four WR's and letting them three run short routes while one runs the long route. This is what he did against Dallas and it worked. Another point about Brunell is his leadership. The no huddle offense works but Brunell needs to be able to get into a rhythm and keep the defense off balance. This also worked against Dallas. No INTS against the CowBitches and 325 yds. in passing is not bad, so the blame still goes all around.

you keep pointing out the same 3-4 plays.... 4 good plays in 5 games IS NOT ENOUGH, not even close... let's talk about the 3427823 times he threw it away... the open receivers he's constantly bypassed for a 4 yarder... the way that he's not scoring (.8 TDs per game, and he's given up 21 points himself)

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I've looked at the pass that Brunell threw to Coles and I'll give credit where credit is unfortunately due. Deion Sanders made an exceptional play. The ball was perfectly thrown to Coles. Unfortunately Sanders came over to assist the other CB who Coles had beaten.

no, coles had them both beat and brunell decided to throw to sanders instead... that was a bad play by brunell, not a good play by deion...

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by That Guy

ramsey's int % may have been slightly higher, but his turnover % was way way lower... brunell fumbles inside the 30 A LOT...



you keep pointing out the same 3-4 plays.... 4 good plays in 5 games IS NOT ENOUGH, not even close... let's talk about the 3427823 times he threw it away... the open receivers he's constantly bypassed for a 4 yarder... the way that he's not scoring (.8 TDs per game, and he's given up 21 points himself)



no, coles had them both beat and brunell decided to throw to sanders instead... that was a bad play by brunell, not a good play by deion...

I'll say it again. 2 INTS in 5 games. 3 fumbles in 5 games. I'll take a ball thrown out of bounds over a sack or a forced pass like Ramsey has made a career of . Ramsey has thrown more INTs in one game than Brunell in 5 games. But I know, he had the pressure on him to dig us out of a hole that Brunell put us in. Well I'm here to tell you Ramsey won't be able to dig us out of a four game losing streak either.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

I'll say it again. 2 INTS in 5 games. 3 fumbles in 5 games. I'll take a ball thrown out of bounds over a sack or a forced pass like Ramsey has made a career of . Ramsey has thrown more INTs in one game than Brunell in 5 games. But I know, he had the pressure on him to dig us out of a hole that Brunell put us in. Well I'm here to tell you Ramsey won't be able to dig us out of a four game losing streak either.

If Brunell tried to make a play he may have a few INT's, but he doesn't, half the guy's on this board, could take a snap from center, drop back and throw it away if there's not a blown coverage 5yd's over the line of scrimmage, Ramsey moves the ball, he will also limit his mistakes as he learn's, further more you keep comparing his stat's under SS, not fair, how many times did he have a chance to look down field, very rare, most of the time he was lucky to set himself to throw, I will guarentee you Ramsey will succeed under Gibb's if given a fair shot, Brunell is a veteran, what's the hold up. Right now we are not going to run the ball until we start proving that we can throw it, Ramsey will do that, and yes I think he's capable of digging us out of this hole, the one the Brunell has put us in, Remember regardless of the rest of the team, he has served up 3 TD's in 3 different games, 2 of which probably cost us the game.

Sunra, with your logic Brett Favre would have never made it in this league, the guy took more chances, and through more INT's when he started out than most QB's early in their carreer's, yet he turned out to be a fairly decent QB, wouldn't you say.