thread of reason

SUNRA · 10-03-2004, 09:15 PM

Matty tried to set the tone for this thread which was let us reason together. But some of our fellow members aren't haven't it. I share the skinsguy view of this team being at the point where by eliminating a few mistakes can have this team back on track. Remember three seasons ago we were 0-5 and won the next five games. One thing about me that people who hate the Redskins say is that I'm a die hard (Wearing a Redskins jersey monday morning whether we won or loss) kind of fan. I know we are family and we air out our frustrations with the team but know is not the time to make drastic changes because it will only places blame on certain individuals rather than the play calling and execution.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-03-2004, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

Matty tried to set the tone for this thread which was let us reason together. But some of our fellow members aren't haven't it.

Does letting us reason together mean I accept your view?

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-03-2004, 10:58 PM

I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I too would like to air out my opinion. I don't knock you for having your opinion and neither should you knock me for mine.

Calling my idea crap or implying that some people just won't listen to reason isn't appropriate. I love this site and I like everyone on it. But don't shut down debate. Am I wrong for saying that much?

skinsguy · 10-03-2004, 11:11 PM

I like Ramsey and I think he's going to be a good QB if he sticks with Gibbs and his coaching staff, but you hit on something in your first post that I believe the coaches need to work out and not the QB. The timing of lining up the O-line. Gibbs' offense is largely based on audibles at the line and different shifts of formation. I still have the SB with Rypien and Co on tape and I could tell ya that in that SB year, the Skins shifted SO much...nowadays the team doesn't have THAT much time to shift unless it goes to no huddle ALL the time. With that said, what Gibbs might have to do is go to a more modified version of his formations --- it's a feeling out phase for Gibbs getting used to the reduced play clock. Brunell hasn't been spectacular I know..but hey..his WRs are going to have to catch the ball and hold on to it..and they are going to have to get open down field! Brunell had to throw the ball away several times because of coverage.

Hogskin · 10-03-2004, 11:34 PM

My experience has been think all ideas are welcome on this site. But for God's sake, some guys can't even have enough character to respect the request of the guy that started THIS ONE thread. This was supposed to be a more rational/positive thread. jdlea and the others: There are PLENTY of other threads for you to bitch and moan in. Or you could start your own.

Anyhow, todays game was very disappointing. Looks like it will take a little farther into the season than I thought for Gibbs and company to get this team (and themselves) shaped up. But I am still totally confident it will happen this season. We won't win the Super Bowl this year, and may not even make the playoffs this year. (But I still have faith we will!) It would be nice if we did, but Redskin fans need to get over this idea of annual housecleaning, and learn some patience. This is a proven staff, and they WILL bring us to the promised land!!

SUNRA · 10-04-2004, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I too would like to air out my opinion. I don't knock you for having your opinion and neither should you knock me for mine.

Calling my idea crap or implying that some people just won't listen to reason isn't appropriate. I love this site and I like everyone on it. But don't shut down debate. Am I wrong for saying that much?

I don't know who called your opinions crap, but I think this thread was to be for the purpose of considering what progress we have made rather than what we haven't done. There are enough threads here to express your anger with this season.

CRT3 · 10-04-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

I don't know who called your opinions crap, but I think this thread was to be for the purpose of considering what progress we have made rather than what we haven't done. There are enough threads here to express your anger with this season.

Well Ramsey fan has a good point on mostly everything, but let me be the one that says his opions on Brunell is CRAP. He has played within the system. Typically avoids the sack and the interception. Lets see 1 interception in 3 1/2 games. The play calling has been up and down. What has he done that is so terribly wrong. Please show me somthing other then he sucks, be at the very least annaltical.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 10-04-2004, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CRT3

Well Ramsey fan has a good point on mostly everything, but let me be the one that says his opions on Brunell is CRAP.

fair enough

SUNRA · 10-04-2004, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Does letting us reason together mean I accept your view?

No it doesn't mean accepting anything. It simply means to consider the positive things that have happened with this team and not call out every player or staff member that made a mistake. You would agree that there are enough threads on this website to vent your anger. On this thread, it was simply asked not to do that.

10-03-2004, 09:15 PM	#1
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Matty tried to set the tone for this thread which was let us reason together. But some of our fellow members aren't haven't it. I share the skinsguy view of this team being at the point where by eliminating a few mistakes can have this team back on track. Remember three seasons ago we were 0-5 and won the next five games. One thing about me that people who hate the Redskins say is that I'm a die hard (Wearing a Redskins jersey monday morning whether we won or loss) kind of fan. I know we are family and we air out our frustrations with the team but know is not the time to make drastic changes because it will only places blame on certain individuals rather than the play calling and execution. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-03-2004, 11:34 PM	#5
Hogskin Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hartselle, Alabama Age: 84 Posts: 659	My experience has been think all ideas are welcome on this site. But for God's sake, some guys can't even have enough character to respect the request of the guy that started THIS ONE thread. This was supposed to be a more rational/positive thread. jdlea and the others: There are PLENTY of other threads for you to bitch and moan in. Or you could start your own. Anyhow, todays game was very disappointing. Looks like it will take a little farther into the season than I thought for Gibbs and company to get this team (and themselves) shaped up. But I am still totally confident it will happen this season. We won't win the Super Bowl this year, and may not even make the playoffs this year. (But I still have faith we will!) It would be nice if we did, but Redskin fans need to get over this idea of annual housecleaning, and learn some patience. This is a proven staff, and they WILL bring us to the promised land!! __________________ John Shaffer National Fantasy Sports Leagues, Inc. Home of "The BEST Game In Town" since 1990

10-03-2004, 10:58 PM	#3
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	I'm really not trying to be argumentative. I too would like to air out my opinion. I don't knock you for having your opinion and neither should you knock me for mine. Calling my idea crap or implying that some people just won't listen to reason isn't appropriate. I love this site and I like everyone on it. But don't shut down debate. Am I wrong for saying that much?

10-03-2004, 11:11 PM	#4
skinsguy Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina Posts: 6,766	I like Ramsey and I think he's going to be a good QB if he sticks with Gibbs and his coaching staff, but you hit on something in your first post that I believe the coaches need to work out and not the QB. The timing of lining up the O-line. Gibbs' offense is largely based on audibles at the line and different shifts of formation. I still have the SB with Rypien and Co on tape and I could tell ya that in that SB year, the Skins shifted SO much...nowadays the team doesn't have THAT much time to shift unless it goes to no huddle ALL the time. With that said, what Gibbs might have to do is go to a more modified version of his formations --- it's a feeling out phase for Gibbs getting used to the reduced play clock. Brunell hasn't been spectacular I know..but hey..his WRs are going to have to catch the ball and hold on to it..and they are going to have to get open down field! Brunell had to throw the ball away several times because of coverage.

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