Great Playcalling, Joe

[MTK]

Trouble is we couldn't sustain anything long enough in order to take some deep shots.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Trouble is we couldn't sustain anything long enough in order to take some deep shots.

Actually I was bothered by some of the deeper throws Campbell was taking. He did take some shots, but I don't know why everything had to be like 40+ yards. I wanted more shots over the middle for like 15 yards. Those throws were working a whole lot yesterday. The Giants D was stepping up and shutting down the run. The Skins shouldn't have abandoned it, but they needed to get away from it. I just don't like the way that game went down the stretch. Playcalling or anything else.

[dgack]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Actually I was bothered by some of the deeper throws Campbell was taking. He did take some shots, but I don't know why everything had to be like 40+ yards. I wanted more shots over the middle for like 15 yards. Those throws were working a whole lot yesterday. The Giants D was stepping up and shutting down the run. The Skins shouldn't have abandoned it, but they needed to get away from it. I just don't like the way that game went down the stretch. Playcalling or anything else.

I gotta disagree with you here -- Jason's arm is one of his many gifts, and I think we both know that if he'd been out there throwing dink-and-dunk (like we've seen for the past how many years??), we'd all be bitching about how we don't ever throw down the field.

We are supposed to have receivers who can stretch the field and catch those kinds of passes. Now, Jason's accuracy hasn't been pinpoint, but I do think that he's thrown some catchable deep balls, that Santana Moss '05 would definitely have caught, for one, and maybe even Brandon Lloyd '05 would have gone up and grabbed.

Think about how many drops we've seen on those deep balls in the past 3 weeks that would have been absolute back-breakers and momentum changers... those things force defensive coordinators to change their schemes. Those things convince Joe it's safe to mix it up instead of relying on the Super Bowl Security Blanket (conservative playcalling).

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by dgack

I gotta disagree with you here -- Jason's arm is one of his many gifts, and I think we both know that if he'd been out there throwing dink-and-dunk (like we've seen for the past how many years??), we'd all be bitching about how we don't ever throw down the field.

We are supposed to have receivers who can stretch the field and catch those kinds of passes. Now, Jason's accuracy hasn't been pinpoint, but I do think that he's thrown some catchable deep balls, that Santana Moss '05 would definitely have caught, for one, and maybe even Brandon Lloyd '05 would have gone up and grabbed.

Think about how many drops we've seen on those deep balls in the past 3 weeks that would have been absolute back-breakers and momentum changers... those things force defensive coordinators to change their schemes. Those things convince Joe it's safe to mix it up instead of relying on the Super Bowl Security Blanket (conservative playcalling).

I don't think I really illustrated my point all that well in the original post. I don't have a problem with them throwing the deep ball, not at all, not even a little. I didn't like, though that it seemed passes were either swing passes or 40 yard bombs yesterday, until the last drive at least. Maybe the Giants D was taking that away earlier in the game, I don't know, I don't watch game tape. However, I would have liked to have seen more 15-20 yard ins and digs. They need to get more guys open coming across the field when the offense isn't hitting than trying to catch lightning in a bottle.

Now, that's not to say that I don't want him going downfield at all, I just think it needs to be mixed in a little bit better, like in the Philly game when it seemed that outs and digs were killing them. Then, late Santana gets free deep. I would rather see the ball spread around the 15-25 yard range more than it was yesterday.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Trouble is we couldn't sustain anything long enough in order to take some deep shots.

Let me ask you this. How come we are only in shotgun on 3rd and long? Why not try running a 3rd and long offense on 1st down to try and get bigger pass plays? It's not as tough to get big pass plays on 1st down then on 3rd down. Why don't we ever line up in shotgun in 1st down???? I'm not say we have to throw it. Hell we can run it. But it just gives the defense something else to think about. These are things that I can see from my TV. It just makes us easier to defend being so damn predictable.

Personally that jumbo crap on the goaline with no timeouts was just terrible. I knew we were going to run the left side. Everyone knew we were going to that side and that's why we got stuffed. That was also on the coaches.

Spiking the ball with 51 seconds on 1st down on the 2 yard line is simply unacceptable and it was piss poor coaching and that's on Joe Gibbs. This clock management bullshit has been going on for three years. Fix it or retire. You don't see teams with good offensive coaching going through stupid things like this. With as much $ as these guys make this should never ever happen and if I were Snyder I would be livid!