The I hate the Patriots thread!

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

The bottom line is when you have multiple Super Bowls in a short period of time you have to do things that motivate the team.

The Pats have become my 2nd favorite team. I just like how they handle their business. All that crap that went on last week was so stupid. It does not affect the outcome of football games and anyone that is football knowledgeable understands that. And what did they do? Went out and destroyed a very good football team. Like them or not you can't deny that they are great.

It doesn't affect the outcome? Are you serious? Then why spend time and money doing something that is obviously illegal in the NFL?

I love how people can even begin to claim that cheating doesn't give an unfair advantage. It just does, and its flatout wrong. Have you seen the video taken of the defensive signals? I don't think they are a bad team, but they cheated and what they did was wrong and messed up. Many people don't like them to begin with and this just adds to that. So like it or not, the Patriots are still cheaters(based on the rules and regulation of the NFL which they clearly knew).

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by hooskins

It doesn't affect the outcome? Are you serious? Then why spend time and money doing something that is obviously illegal in the NFL?

I love how people can even begin to claim that cheating doesn't give an unfair advantage. It just does, and its flatout wrong. Have you seen the video taken of the defensive signals? I don't think they are a bad team, but they cheated and what they did was wrong and messed up. Many people don't like them to begin with and this just adds to that. So like it or not, the Patriots are still cheaters(based on the rules and regulation of the NFL which they clearly knew).

I agree. You have to ask yourself this, if it doesn't help, or doesn't give an unfair advantage, why did the Patriots do it? Obviously it does. The dumbest argument is that it didn't affect anything. Of course it did or they wouldn't have wasted the time trying it.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hooskins

It doesn't affect the outcome? Are you serious? Then why spend time and money doing something that is obviously illegal in the NFL?

I love how people can even begin to claim that cheating doesn't give an unfair advantage. It just does, and its flatout wrong. Have you seen the video taken of the defensive signals? I don't think they are a bad team, but they cheated and what they did was wrong and messed up. Many people don't like them to begin with and this just adds to that. So like it or not, the Patriots are still cheaters(based on the rules and regulation of the NFL which they clearly knew).

Yes I'm serious. The media is making way more than what it is. So what if there is video of defensive signals. Someone would have to know what the signals are, then quicky relay them to the offensive coordinator who would then have to call a play for that specific defense. All in the matter of 30 seconds? Trust me on this. It doesn't do shit as far as the outcome is concerned. But yes it is cheating and yes it's wrong.

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes I'm serious. The media is making way more than what it is. So what if there is video of defensive signals. Someone would have to know what the signals are, then quicky relay them to the offensive coordinator who would then have to call a play for that specific defense. All in the matter of 30 seconds? Trust me on this. It doesn't do shit as far as the outcome is concerned. But yes it is cheating and yes it's wrong.

Well they also have claimed that the Pats look at those signals during the first half and let the team know during halftime. And that could possibly impact the 2nd half of the game. The Pats have won many games in the 2nd half and with miracle comebacks as well. Cheating on a play or two could determine the game in the NFL. I am not saying thats what they did every game in the past, but it is a possibility.

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Yes I'm serious. The media is making way more than what it is. So what if there is video of defensive signals. Someone would have to know what the signals are, then quicky relay them to the offensive coordinator who would then have to call a play for that specific defense. All in the matter of 30 seconds? Trust me on this. It doesn't do shit as far as the outcome is concerned. But yes it is cheating and yes it's wrong.

you are clueless... you say it doesnt do shit, but you dont know shit... i guess it doesnt help them at all so they are doing it for fun. come on man, your second favorite team, you are telling me that matching up there defensive signals with the plays on the field will not help you game plan in the future. so you like thier game planning, well at least part of it is from illegally obtained info. this teams character is shit. these guys cheat and are extremely arrogant when they win...i bet you like that too dont you. if it quaks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, its a fucking duck. these guys talk like dicks, act like arrogant punks, look like cheaters, they are pieces of shit from thier coaching staff on down....jump ship, dont stick up for them, they suck and leave it at that.....or even look at the thread again and see that this is a i hate the pats board donkey.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

you are clueless... you say it doesnt do shit, but you dont know shit... i guess it doesnt help them at all so they are doing it for fun. come on man, your second favorite team, you are telling me that matching up there defensive signals with the plays on the field will not help you game plan in the future. so you like thier game planning, well at least part of it is from illegally obtained info. this teams character is shit. these guys cheat and are extremely arrogant when they win...i bet you like that too dont you. if it quaks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, its a fucking duck. these guys talk like dicks, act like arrogant punks, look like cheaters, they are pieces of shit from thier coaching staff on down....jump ship, dont stick up for them, they suck and leave it at that.....or even look at the thread again and see that this is a i hate the pats board donkey.

Donkey?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

you are clueless... you say it doesnt do shit, but you dont know shit... i guess it doesnt help them at all so they are doing it for fun. come on man, your second favorite team, you are telling me that matching up there defensive signals with the plays on the field will not help you game plan in the future. so you like thier game planning, well at least part of it is from illegally obtained info. this teams character is shit. these guys cheat and are extremely arrogant when they win...i bet you like that too dont you. if it quaks like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, its a fucking duck. these guys talk like dicks, act like arrogant punks, look like cheaters, they are pieces of shit from thier coaching staff on down....jump ship, dont stick up for them, they suck and leave it at that.....or even look at the thread again and see that this is a i hate the pats board donkey.

I don't know shit?? You don't know shit!!!! So I guess the reason Tom Brady rips apart defenses with pin point accuracy is beacuse they steal defensive signals????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? C'mon dude. Let me ask you this Mr. Football expert. Why is it that year in and year out they are a top ten scoring defense? Why is it that they killed SD without Seymour and Harrison? Why is it that they win a Super Bowl with 2nd string guys in the 2ndary? They win a Super Bowl with Troy Brown playing defensive back. You think they do all that because they steal signals? Your comments are simply childish and it shows your football IQ is 0. I just respect good football. It doesn't matter who the team is.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't know shit?? You don't know shit!!!! So I guess the reason Tom Brady rips apart defenses with pin point accuracy is beacuse they steal defensive signals????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????? C'mon dude. Let me ask you this Mr. Football expert. Why is it that year in and year out they are a top ten scoring defense? Why is it that they killed SD without Seymour and Harrison? Why is it that they win a Super Bowl with 2nd string guys in the 2ndary? They win a Super Bowl with Troy Brown playing defensive back. You think they do all that because they steal signals? Your comments are simply childish and it shows your football IQ is 0. I just respect good football. It doesn't matter who the team is.

Oh my...let's take it easy.

You clearly missed my question.
If they weren't cheating, or trying to cheat, then why are they doing it?

That question is so good, it ends the conversation and should have everyone saying...damn you're right...they cheated.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Oh my...let's take it easy.

You clearly missed my question.
If they weren't cheating, or trying to cheat, then why are they doing it?

That question is so good, it ends the conversation and should have everyone saying...damn you're right...they cheated.

They cheated. 100%. But it does not affect the outcome.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They cheated. 100%. But it does not affect the outcome.

LOL...WHAT? Do you mean it didn't affect the outcome of the Jets game? Cause that I think is true. But this was not their first time, and why cheat if you don't use the info?

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They cheated. 100%. But it does not affect the outcome.

first of all stealing signals or having dline man mic'ed will lead any defense to the area where the ball is going....thats is one reason why they lead the nfl in defensive scoring. norv turner is the reason they spanked san diego. and you quote above is blind....i am not claiming i know more than you donkey, i am saying you dont know shit about the extent of the cheating but it was significant enough for the nfl to step in. haha i mean seriously look at what you said dude. yes they cheated? 100%? BUT IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE OUTCOME???? i just dont get that, how doesnt it. when it gives you an advantage how does it not effect the outcome, if you cheat on a test it doesnt affect the outcome, if you get a head start in a race it doesnt affect the outcome, if you know the coverage or the audible of the offense how does it not affect the outcome. i am sorry but as a division 3 qb, if i knew the coverage i could focus my reads easily. in other words simplified and i knew where to attack it. please dont tell me that you still have to make the throw...please because 3rd string QBs can make the throws if they know where they are going with it. part of learning qb in the pros or any level is learning to read defenses no matter how they line up. knowing the coverage is what its all about as a qb, they read it then make the throw so tell me again how it doesnt affect the outcome...please!