Joe Gibbs coaching tree?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Most NFL fans associate the West Coast Offense with Bill Walsh’s 49ers teams of the 1980s. But the seeds of Walsh’s system in San Francisco were planted 20 years earlier by Gillman and in a much different form.

I always thought Bill Walsh was a student of Paul Brown, who was the original pioneer of what we know as the "West Coast" short passing attack.

The Sid Gillman/Don Coryell philosophy never actually crossed paths with Bill Walsh.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I always thought Bill Walsh was a student of Paul Brown, who was the original pioneer of what we know as the "West Coast" short passing attack.

The Sid Gillman/Don Coryell philosophy never actually crossed paths with Bill Walsh.

I think you're right about the Walsh/Brown connection. But Walsh still used parts of Gillman's philosophy to craft his own offensive vision.

Former 49ers coach Bill Walsh dead at 75 - Yahoo! News

After Cal, he did a stint at Stanford before beginning his pro coaching career as an assistant with the AFL's Oakland Raiders in 1966, forging a friendship with Al Davis that endured through decades of rivalry. Walsh joined the Cincinnati Bengals in 1968 to work for legendary coach Paul Brown, who gradually gave complete control of the Bengals' offense to his assistant. Walsh built a scheme based on the teachings of Davis, Brown and Sid Gillman — and Walsh's own innovations, which included everything from short dropbacks and novel receiving routes to constant repetition of every play in practice. Though it originated in Cincinnati, it became known many years later as the West Coast offense — a name Walsh never liked or repeated...

[SpeedyDuncan]

Petitbon played for George Allen. I think he was a holdover from Pardee's coaching staff. He played for the Bears, Rams and Skins. Maybe he comes from the Halas tree.

I'm not sure Joe Gibbs has a coaching tree. He got his start fairly young and retired before many of his former players could have become coaches under him. I would not consider any defensive coaches to fall in this category. As for offensive assistants, most have been colleagues who already shared the same philosophy.

The only guy that I can think of who became a head coach was Joe Bugel. I think he comes from the same tree that Joe Gibbs comes from. I think before you have a tree, you need some branches.

Russ Grimm and Earnest Byner are guys who may fit this description, if they become head coaches.

Dan Henning, Don Breaux, Rennie Simmons and Wayne Sevier (RIP) etc. are all like thinkers and contemporaries of Joe Gibbs. They are / were part of the mastery.

[billmountjoy]

Beemnseven:

Walsh is on Gillman's "Coaching Tree" (2nd. genertation). Al Davis worked under Gillman, & Walsh worked under Al Davis (BEFORE he worked with Paul Brown).

Walsh began his pro coaching career in 1966 as an assistant with the AFL's Oakland Raiders. As a Raider assistant, Walsh was trained in the vertical passing offense favored by Al Davis, putting Walsh in Davis' mentor Sid Gillman's coaching tree.