Don Imus

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

Matty your wrong he is not a jackass he's a racist biget, just like rush limbaurgh,..........a jackass can be forgiven, as a blackman he would made those comments about my child who played on that team I would have whooped his shaggy dog,..old prune ass.....whoever dont like that ........TO DAMN BAD

i'm still confused as to how his statement "nappy headed hoes" is a racist comment. is the rutgers womens b-ball team an all black team ? i thought there were white girls , as well as black girls on that team. if i'm correct and there are both white and black girls on that team , then how is his comment racist ? sexist, i can see but racist, no.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'm still confused as to how his statement "nappy headed hoes" is a racist comment. is the rutgers womens b-ball team an all black team ? i thought there were white girls , as well as black girls on that team. if i'm correct and there are both white and black girls on that team , then how is his comment racist ? sexist, i can see but racist, no.

After reading Wilbon's article about Imus and learning more about his past, I don't care about his recent statements. The guy deserved to be fired for his continued pattern of inappropriate conduct. Check out the link I posted at the top of this page if you'd like to learn more about his "past incidents."

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

After reading Wilbon's article about Imus and learning more about his past, I don't care about his recent statements. The guy deserved to be fired for his continued pattern of inappropriate conduct. Check out the link I posted at the top of this page if you'd like to learn more about his "past incidents."

that article definately helps me understand why he was fired, i didn't know he had a history of making such comments.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

that article definately helps me understand why he was fired, i didn't know he had a history of making such comments.

Yeah, I didn't know his history of problems before I read that one.

[100% PURE WHOOP ASS]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

i'm still confused as to how his statement "nappy headed hoes" is a racist comment. is the rutgers womens b-ball team an all black team ? i thought there were white girls , as well as black girls on that team. if i'm correct and there are both white and black girls on that team , then how is his comment racist ? sexist, i can see but racist, no.

OF CORSE YOU CANT cause your probaly a white guy, and wouldnt understand at all, whether there white girls on the team or not, it wasnt directed toward the white women, ( so dont play retared) he was targeting a race of women not the whole team, but the more I hear these stupid ass, comments about how he isnt racist just stupid, means you have no more sensitivity toward these girls than he do, and you just catgoried you self with him.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

100%, I understand why this issue elicits a lot of emotion with so many people. Everyone has the right to feel that Imus is the scum of the earth. But, if people make comments on this site that make you very angry and want to vent, I would suggest simply avoiding the thread containing the controversial issues or posts. We have site rules against personal attacks on fellow posters.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

OF CORSE YOU CANT cause your probaly a white guy, and wouldnt understand at all, whether there white girls on the team or not, it wasnt directed toward the white women, ( so dont play retared) he was targeting a race of women not the whole team, but the more I hear these stupid ass, comments about how he isnt racist just stupid, means you have no more sensitivity toward these girls than he do, and you just catgoried you self with him.

how do you know he was only targeting the black girls on the team. during the rutger press conference each player from the team stood at the podium to speek. i do realize that the majority of the girls are black but why then did the white girls also speak during the press conference ? you make it sound as though i'm defending the guy , all i'm saying is his statement seems to be more sexist then racist. are only black girls called hoes, or is it the "nappy headed" part that makes it racist. i've heard white girls be called hoes before and i've never concidered the words nappy head to refer to any specific race. would imus have been talking about the white girls on the team if he would have said "bad haired sluts" people assume he was targetting the blacks because it was a white male talking about a basketball team . people forget that white poeple still play basketball too.

all these over the top reactions to his statement cause a bigger divide between blacks and whites then the actuall statement itself.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

how do you know he was only targeting the black girls on the team. during the rutger press conference each player from the team stood at the podium to speek. i do realize that the majority of the girls are black but why then did the white girls also speak during the press conference ? you make it sound as though i'm defending the guy , all i'm saying is his statement seems to be more sexist then racist. are only black girls called hoes, or is it the "nappy headed" part that makes it racist. i've heard white girls be called hoes before and i've never concidered the words nappy head to refer to any specific race. would imus have been talking about the white girls on the team if he would have said "bad haired sluts" people assume he was targetting the blacks because it was a white male talking about a basketball team . people forget that white poeple still play basketball too.

all these over the top reactions to his statement cause a bigger divide between blacks and whites then the actuall statement itself.

Do you know any white girls with nappy hair?

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by saden1

Do you know any white girls with nappy hair?

many in years past, not so many know.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

OF CORSE YOU CANT cause your probaly a white guy, and wouldnt understand at all[.]

Statements about one person's inability to understand another person's pain are both ignorant and offensive. The mere fact that someone has not experienced something firsthand does not mean they are incapable of understanding it. In fact, if this were so, than education would be meaningless because the point of education is to help us understand those things we have not experiened (Have you been to Antarctica? Know anyone that has? Yet, I bet you understand that it exists).

Much of white america has not experienced racism. That does not mean that the majority of white america cannot understand it. Rather, it is the very attempt to understand it that has created the enviroment neccessary to end the permisiveness of overt racism. For blacks to discredit whites understanding of racism b/c they have not "experienced it" is to end all hope of reconciliation and improvement of race relations.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Statements about one person's inability to understand another person's pain are both ignorant and offensive. The mere fact that someone has not experienced something firsthand does not mean they are incapable of understanding it. In fact, if this were so, than education would be meaningless because the point of education is to help us understand those things we have not experiened (Have you been to Antarctica? Know anyone that has? Yet, I bet you understand that it exists).

Much of white america has not experienced racism. That does not mean that the majority of white america cannot understand it. Rather, it is the very attempt to understand it that has created the enviroment neccessary to end the permisiveness of overt racism. For blacks to discredit whites understanding of racism b/c they have not "experienced it" is to end all hope of reconciliation and improvement of race relations.

Well said.

As for people who suggest that the Rutgers team should not be so sensitive, I say this:
Racial comments are not the same as other insults. If somebody calls me a jackass, or a douche bag, it does not imply that I am sub-human. However, in my opinion, racial slurs are meant to degrade a person to the point of being sub-human.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

As for people who suggest that the Rutgers team should not be so sensitive, I say this:
Racial comments are not the same as other insults. If somebody calls me a jackass, or a douche bag, it does not imply that I am sub-human. However, in my opinion, racial slurs are meant to degrade a person to the point of being sub-human.

I understand that point of view and agree that the use of racial comments are intended to degrade. My response to that, as to the Rutgers team, is not that they are being oversensitive but, rather, that they some of them appear to be claiming injury beyond the actual harm caused.

The original remarks were degrading. Yet, they have been universally condemned (I know I keep coming back to this point, but I think it is significant). It would be one thing if there was even some debate as to whether the remarks were permissible but there isn't. Everyone has turned to these Rutgers players and said "Imus is an ass, ignore him - We don't agree with him AND we think his remarks are hateful and ignorant. We believe you are talented athletes deserving of respect."

In light of the public response to the remarks, one of reassurance and affirmation to the Rutgers players, I cannot see how irreparable harm can have occurred by the remarks.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by 100% PURE WHOOP ASS

OF CORSE YOU CANT cause your probaly a white guy, and wouldnt understand at all, whether there white girls on the team or not, it wasnt directed toward the white women, ( so dont play retared) he was targeting a race of women not the whole team, but the more I hear these stupid ass, comments about how he isnt racist just stupid, means you have no more sensitivity toward these girls than he do, and you just catgoried you self with him.

Why must you make conclusions about Wolfeskins because of his race? Just because a person is white, does not mean that they are incapable of understanding racial issues.