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Old 02-24-2004, 07:43 PM   #1
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I agree, everything is on Bailey. They said they were talking about 8 mil a year for him, on PTI. If he dosent except that, someone needs to drug test him, cause if he said no he would definitley have to be on a mind altering substance of some form, according to the american legal system
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Old 02-24-2004, 07:45 PM   #2
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Ug, our 2nd rounder. Portis is great, but our 2nd rounder for arguably the best CB in the league? Come on!
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:00 PM   #3
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A CB isn't as critical a position as a RB.
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:10 PM   #4
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In a very twisted way, Bailey made it more difficult for us to get turnovers in recent years. "Shutdown corners" don't get opportunities, because the ball isn't thrown their way. Smoot will have an adjustment to make, and Bauman or a free agent will be in the fire as well. They will be greatly helped by an improved pass rush.

Now, how about Betts for a third rounder?
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:10 PM   #5
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While I would have loved a Portis-Bailey trade straight up, I'm a little upset about the Bailey + 2nd rounder for Portis. We had a high second rounder and given that we cut Armstead, are going to sign Portis to a massive deal, and need to signa costly, veteran FA to fill Champ's vacancy, I think we really needed that 2nd rounder in order to get a quality player to fill a position at a cheap price.

On the other hand, the Broncos knew we didn't really have Champ - there was no way we were going to be able to keep him, so maybe getting Portis for a second rounder is the way to look at it. The Lions weren't going to give us a 1st and 2nd rounder, so I'd prefer to get Portis at the price of a second round pick than just the Lions 1st rounder.

Finally, Champ's loss could be offset on the defensive side of the ball. If we sign a big DT (i.e. Robaire Smith) and Jevon Kearse (which looks more and more likely), we may not need the coverage skills Bailey gave us last year. We will need a decent #1 corner (i.e. Winfield) and some dlinemen who give us the pass rush.
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:10 PM   #6
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As long as Portis can do here what he did in Denver we'll be glad we have him. Sure wish we still had Stephen Davis though. Under Gibbs he'd be in the pro-bowl every year!!!! With a huge running attack our passing game will come through big time!!!! Coles should have a great year too!!!!!
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Old 02-24-2004, 08:45 PM   #7
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Uuuugggghhhhh. Say it ain't so Joe. Danny can afford anyone he wants, but that's not the issue. The NFL has a salary cap and signing Portis for big $$$ is going to screw this team royally. Danny's whole way of doing these long term contracts with HUGE signing bonuses, minimal first few years pay and gradually increasing to multimillion dollar a year pay is going to continue to bite him and all of us fans in the ass. Year after year we're going to be seeing our studs leaving, and Danny boy trying to bring in new studs. Unfortunately, when he cuts some of those guys, the signing bonuses are going to kill our cap.

I will say that, despite all of the flack our O Line caught last year, I think they're all in all a strong group of blockers for the running game. Unfortunately, with Spurrier here, we didn't get to see them using that talent. Lets hope Portis is able to continue to put up 1500+ yards a year and a TD or 2 a game, because it's not sounding as if we're going to have too much cash left to bolster our 25th ranked defense (and that was WITH Bailey & Armstead)
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:03 PM   #8
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I don't like the deal, especially giving up a #2 to do it, gibbs needs a between the tackles runner, portis is used to a trapping type of blocking which gives a lot of space to run when the hole is opened and a lot of big gains, I just don't think he's worth what were giving up, there is a reason back after back gain's 1500 yds. in that offense. I don't see portis as a big need we are alway's so enamoured with everyone else's player's, at the very least we could deal champ for a #1 and get any back we desire, and keep our #2.

Maybe this question will help solve portis's worth, what kind of year do you think portis would have had last year under SS? As well we can ask, what do you think bett's could do running in that denver offense?
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:37 PM   #9
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I too don't like the fact that we have to give up our second round pick tooo. Champ in many ways in better than portis simply for the reason it is harder to find a lock down corner than a running back. But then again dan synder always overpays for everything.
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Old 02-24-2004, 09:41 PM   #10
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I like Portis and his running style a lot. Gibbs will adapt to his style and get him in the open field. Get him in the open field and we have large gains a comin! I don't however think Bailey and a 2nd rounder is what we need to give up. I'll swap 2nds with Denver, but that's it!
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Old 02-25-2004, 09:18 AM   #11
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With Portis now a Redskin..?? Pending a contract dispute. I'd say the skins need to either sign the best available DT (Randy Starks 6'4" 312) or top FS ( Sean Taylor 6'3" 225).

With a vet QB, proven RB superstar, & a O-line that has talent, I can't see how they could pass on these 2 great players...????
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Old 02-25-2004, 02:16 PM   #12
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This morning Mike Greenburg was going off on ESPN radio on how Gibbs has forgotten about football and that he is making a big mistake in letting Champ go. I am sick and tired of hearing all this negativity surrounding this trade. First of all......CHAMP WANTS OUT OF WASHINGTON!!!! So why not get a great running back that still in his prime if not reaching his prime? I don't agree with sending a 2nd round pick w/ Champ, because we got Champ in the 1st round ( I believe top 10 ) and Clinton Portis was drafted in the 2nd round. If anything the Broncos should at least give us one of their picks. You can always find a decent RB, but it's hard to find a shut down corner like Champ.

Also, get ready for Jevon Kearse, Warrick Holdman, and possibly Warren Sapp! Then we can draft Sean Taylor with our 5th pick. The defense will be fine.

HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!
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Old 02-26-2004, 08:06 PM   #13
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Darrell Green was a great future hall-of-famer CB, but really he wasn't necessarily a "shut down" CB. I think we can get away without having Champ, but we need to have a great RB, and we also need to fill the gaps on the defensive line..and apparently now the LB position...
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Old 02-26-2004, 10:40 PM   #14
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Hurry up and make the trade! Get Champs ass out of here!
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Old 02-25-2004, 07:17 PM   #15
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Ug, our 2nd rounder. Portis is great, but our 2nd rounder for arguably the best CB in the league? Come on!
i just don't agree with parting with a 2nd. round pick...this draft is deep and loaded with talent. this to me is disappointing...
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