Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal?

Meast · 10-22-2006, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by twinskinsfan

I agree, moderation. Maybe that's what Corporate America is doing, waiting for the oppurtune time. Who knows, Wal-Mart gets there way with everything, maybe they'll start selling it for cheap,and crak there whip on some poor phillapino farmer to grow it at a faster rate...."WHOOPISH, GROW IT FASTER!!!"

HAHAHA, that reminded me of Chapelle, "BURN, YOUR FEET!"
P.S. I'm high

Meast · 10-22-2006, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

increased vechile accidents due to pot (which would be true)

Increased vehicle accidents? The only time I drive safely is when I have drugs in the car. It all goes back to what Matty says...there's no need to fight(Although, I'll always side with Rob) Let every fan enjoy himself. To each his own, I have been high every skins game this season. I remember everything, It's like someone else said(forgot who) moderation is key

That Guy · 10-22-2006, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Meast

Increased vehicle accidents? The only time I drive safely is when I have drugs in the car. It all goes back to what Matty says...there's no need to fight(Although, I'll always side with Rob) Let every fan enjoy himself. To each his own, I have been high every skins game this season. I remember everything, It's like someone else said(forgot who) moderation is key

that's great, i have no idea why you think i'm fighting, and i hope you're not serious, or do you think driving drunk is a good idea too? I think you're assuming i've stated a position, instead of just stating facts. alcohol helps cause accidents, pot already helps cause some accidents, and logically, making it legal and plentiful would increase the chances of driving while high. logically the deaths due to drug trafficking would decrease as well. just because you can moderate doesn't mean everyone can, unless you think your personal moderation magically cures all known forms of alcoholism for every alcoholic worldwide

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gibbsisgod · 10-22-2006, 10:28 AM

With alcohol, they have a test to see how much your blood alcohol level is and in therefore can enforce laws against drinking and driving and drinking on the job. As it is now there is no test that can determine if you are still "under the influence" of weed. They can do feild tests but i believ the closest they can determine is that you smoked it within the last 12 hours. If they can come up witha way to tell if you have smoked within lets say the last 2 hours, then they may make it legal. Until then, it will remain illegal because they wont be able to enforce the laws regarding driving and work place impairment.

IMO weed is alot less harmful than alcohol and even all the perscription drugs that have become so popular. And yes! I do smoke weed and still am able to live a productive lifestyle. I am actively employed for the same company for 5 years. I am also a father of 3 and while I don't want my kids getting high, when they become adults it is their decision. People say weed is a gateway drug but IMO it depends on the individual. I have been a smoker for almost 10 years and never once have I tried anything but marijuana. I know many many people who are the same way. The people who blame marijuana on being the gateway to their addiction for harder drugs are using that as a copout. They are trying to find excuses for their own addictions instead of taking responsiblities for their own choices.

That Guy · 10-22-2006, 10:53 AM

the gateway thing was the same reason we went to korea and vietnam, to stop the spread of communism, but, as it turns out, we lost and communism has become less prevalent anyways. It's the justification you use when you can't think of anything better to say.

Redskins_P · 10-22-2006, 05:04 PM

I'll say this....my marijuana consumption has increased due to the Redskins playing like shit....its the only thing that gets my mind off of it.

BrudLee · 10-23-2006, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If big business got behind pot like they're behind tobacco they could push it through easily enough.

You may be partly correct.

It's been rumored that while the cigarette manufacturers aren't pushing for legalized marijuana, they're prepared for it. there may be names for joints under copyright right now.

I'd say the thing keeping marijuana from becoming legal is a test for immediate intoxication. Any legalization will include a new batch of laws regarding driving, operating machinery, etc. Until a test saying that at the time of the arrest, this number shows how high you were, those laws would be entiorely subjective, and impossible to prosecute effectively. Since most drug tests can only say if you've used in the past few weeks, that isn't happening.

And for those out there who "drive better when I'm high," sure you do.

dmek25 · 10-23-2006, 07:52 AM

there is no way it becomes legal. too many old order politicians with their political careers in jeopardy for this to change. besides, drugs are drugs, no matter how you look at it. just say no

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-23-2006, 08:23 AM

It is SO funny, and sad at the same time ... we have made a natural plant illegal. Note to the politicians: while you may think you are God, you can't outlaw nature ... HAHAHAHAHAHA!

That Guy · 10-23-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

It is SO funny, and sad at the same time ... we have made a natural plant illegal. Note to the politicians: while you may think you are God, you can't outlaw nature ... HAHAHAHAHAHA!

i don't really see how it's funny or weird. opium is illegal and natural. uranium is natural, but it's illegal to possess it under most situations, etc...

GhettoDogAllStars · 10-23-2006, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

i don't really see how it's funny or weird. opium is illegal and natural. uranium is natural, but it's illegal to possess it under most situations, etc...

opium and uranium are both processed -- marijuana is not. that is the key difference. you could own 1000 acres of land and have some natural marijuana plants growing, without being aware, and you'd be committing a crime. you didn't plant it, you don't sustain it -- but it's illegal because uncle sam says so. bullshit -- that's nature.

now, if you were growing poppy plants, and making opium from it, that doesn't compare. but the point is: opium doesn't make itself.

jsarno · 10-23-2006, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

besides, drugs are drugs, no matter how you look at it. just say no

This is going to sound rude, and I don't mean it that way, but the drugs are drugs comment is short sighted. How many drugs have you taken in your life? How many possibly saved your life? All drugs are not created equally. Every drug is different, and marijuana is different. I firmly beleive God put it on this planet for a reason.

Anywho, some chronic helped me get over that horrible loss and make me feel better that our season is already over.

jsarno · 10-23-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

opium and uranium are both processed -- marijuana is not. that is the key difference. you could own 1000 acres of land and have some natural marijuana plants growing, without being aware, and you'd be committing a crime. you didn't plant it, you don't sustain it -- but it's illegal because uncle sam says so. bullshit -- that's nature.

now, if you were growing poppy plants, and making opium from it, that doesn't compare. but the point is: opium doesn't make itself.

100% correct! Great post!
My friend tried to compare cocaine to weed saying the ingrediants for weed have been put on this earth from God and cocaine is bad. But I had the same argument...weed is untouched...unmolested. All those other drugs are not.

RobH4413 · 10-23-2006, 10:44 PM

yawn

onlydarksets · 10-23-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jsarno

100% correct! Great post!
My friend tried to compare cocaine to weed saying the ingrediants for weed have been put on this earth from God and cocaine is bad. But I had the same argument...weed is untouched...unmolested. All those other drugs are not.

What about shrooms? Or peyote? Or any other "natural" psychedelic? I'm pretty sure we don't want people driving their VW buses around town licking toads and have the cops powerless to do anything about it.

10-22-2006, 10:28 AM	#34
gibbsisgod Playmaker Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 129 W 81st street Age: 45 Posts: 3,503	Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal? With alcohol, they have a test to see how much your blood alcohol level is and in therefore can enforce laws against drinking and driving and drinking on the job. As it is now there is no test that can determine if you are still "under the influence" of weed. They can do feild tests but i believ the closest they can determine is that you smoked it within the last 12 hours. If they can come up witha way to tell if you have smoked within lets say the last 2 hours, then they may make it legal. Until then, it will remain illegal because they wont be able to enforce the laws regarding driving and work place impairment. IMO weed is alot less harmful than alcohol and even all the perscription drugs that have become so popular. And yes! I do smoke weed and still am able to live a productive lifestyle. I am actively employed for the same company for 5 years. I am also a father of 3 and while I don't want my kids getting high, when they become adults it is their decision. People say weed is a gateway drug but IMO it depends on the individual. I have been a smoker for almost 10 years and never once have I tried anything but marijuana. I know many many people who are the same way. The people who blame marijuana on being the gateway to their addiction for harder drugs are using that as a copout. They are trying to find excuses for their own addictions instead of taking responsiblities for their own choices.

10-22-2006, 10:53 AM	#35
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,583	Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal? the gateway thing was the same reason we went to korea and vietnam, to stop the spread of communism, but, as it turns out, we lost and communism has become less prevalent anyways. It's the justification you use when you can't think of anything better to say.

10-22-2006, 05:04 PM	#36
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 46 Posts: 4,101	Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal? I'll say this....my marijuana consumption has increased due to the Redskins playing like shit....its the only thing that gets my mind off of it.

10-23-2006, 07:52 AM	#38
dmek25 MVP Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: lancaster,pa Age: 63 Posts: 10,672	Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal? there is no way it becomes legal. too many old order politicians with their political careers in jeopardy for this to change. besides, drugs are drugs, no matter how you look at it. just say no __________________ "It's better to be quiet and thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt." courtesy of 53fan

10-23-2006, 08:23 AM	#39
GhettoDogAllStars Playmaker Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denver Age: 43 Posts: 2,762	Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal? It is SO funny, and sad at the same time ... we have made a natural plant illegal. Note to the politicians: while you may think you are God, you can't outlaw nature ... HAHAHAHAHAHA! __________________ To succeed in the world it is not enough to be stupid, you must also be well-mannered.

10-23-2006, 10:44 PM	#44
RobH4413 Wildcard Bitches Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bethesda, MD Age: 39 Posts: 2,638	Re: Why are cigarettes legal, but marijuana illegal? yawn __________________ This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!

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