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MTK · 08-03-2004, 12:50 PM

Through the first 6 games last year he was leading the league in passing yards.

I think it's a huge stretch to call him the 3rd best QB, Hasselbeck is solid but nothing spectacular.

If Hasselbeck wins the #2 job I'll eat some big time crow, but I don't see any chance of that happening.

Irish, what has happened so far in camp that would make you proclaim Ramsey a disappointment and #3 on the depth chart? It's not like he's stunk up the joint while Brunell and Hasselbeck have shined. They've all had their moments. Brunell hasn't been all that sharp and neither has Hasselbeck. They all seem to be on the same page right now.

SmootSmack · 08-03-2004, 01:23 PM

Fellas I don't think Irish is saying Hasselbeck is the 2nd best QB on the team. I think he's really talking about Rod Gardner! The man is Hall of Fame bound with that touchdown throwing arm of his. LOL

Seriously though, considering where many 1st round QBs have been going into their third year I'd say Ramsey is doing just fine. And let's not kid ourselves the last couple of years we can't say we've been a definitively better organization than the Lions

irish · 08-03-2004, 02:33 PM

Hogskin · 08-03-2004, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

PR is the 3rd best QB on this team. For a 1st round pick he has proven to be a major disappointment.

Just flat wrong. Hasselbeck has one advantage over Ramsey, and that is his very quick release. Ramsey definitely needs to improve in this area, but is far better overall. Hasselbeck has been very eratic. (I hope you were not saying Hamden is 2nd best LOL.) Gibbs has made it clear he does not want to lose Ramsey, and that he has a good future with the Redskins. I would love to see Hasselbeck get an opportunity to prove himself in the NFL because I thing he has real potential, but if he stays in Washington, it may be a long wait.

irish · 08-04-2004, 01:41 PM

The last few days I had read all about how TH is doing great while PR & MB are looking so-so. Todays paper made it sound like MB & PR looked good in last night's super secret scrimmage game at potomac falls high school.

In the end I think TH would be a better back-up qb than PR because he does not see himself as a potential star while PR believes he is a star in the making and would not deal well with being a back-up. I am certain that if the skins keep only 2 qbs then TH and his piece of ass wife will be riding off into the sunset.

Hogskin · 08-04-2004, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I am certain that if the skins keep only 2 qbs then TH and his piece of ass wife will be riding off into the sunset.

Classy comment. Real nice.

SkinsRock · 08-04-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The last few days I had read all about how TH is doing great while PR & MB are looking so-so. Todays paper made it sound like MB & PR looked good in last night's super secret scrimmage game at potomac falls high school.

In the end I think TH would be a better back-up qb than PR because he does not see himself as a potential star while PR believes he is a star in the making and would not deal well with being a back-up. I am certain that if the skins keep only 2 qbs then TH and his piece of ass wife will be riding off into the sunset.

Aside from his agent (not him) causing a stink when Brunell was signed, Ramsey has done nothing to show that he believes he is a "star in the making" and has actually said pretty much all the right things. Plus, most reports have said or implied that he is actually doing better than MB in training camp so far. What do you have against this guy?

Redskins_P · 08-04-2004, 02:45 PM

Irish seems to have something against everyone.....he's kind of bitter.

SmootSmack · 08-04-2004, 06:29 PM

I really can't see them keeping only 2 QBs

SKINSnCANES · 08-04-2004, 06:40 PM

they have six qbs right now. Brunell, ramsey, hasselback, gardner, tupa and Hamdam. lol

Whoever said that Ramsey is a perfect fit for gibbs because he looks downfield first has a very different opinion then I would give. From what I saw last year, and from what they said in camp, Ramsey looks short first. He didnt used to do that, but ever sinec he started getting killed he would be afraid to wait for the deep route to deveolpe. He holds onto the ball long enough, but he doesnt look downfield.

i want ramsey to start. I want us to have an experienced backup to help him and be a great backup. But Ramsey is just as good as Brunell now,b ut has more upside. Ramsey was great the begining of last year when he had confidence. He just needs that back, along with all the experience hes gained since then.

That Guy · 08-04-2004, 11:10 PM

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Ramsey was great the begining of last year when he had confidence.

agreed.

offiss · 08-04-2004, 11:35 PM

Joe C., has Hamdan had any rep's? If so, how has he looked?

That Guy · 08-04-2004, 11:50 PM

you can check the play by plays, but so far he gets very very few reps and looks very much like a 4th string QB..

SKINSnCANES · 08-05-2004, 01:17 AM

i think he had like one pass for a pick on one of the days. Or was that hasselback... one of them has a 0/1 with a pick.

That Guy · 08-05-2004, 01:41 AM

the reps have been MB 9/PR 9/TH 6/GH 1-3 or something like that...

08-03-2004, 01:23 PM	#17
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Fellas I don't think Irish is saying Hasselbeck is the 2nd best QB on the team. I think he's really talking about Rod Gardner! The man is Hall of Fame bound with that touchdown throwing arm of his. LOL Seriously though, considering where many 1st round QBs have been going into their third year I'd say Ramsey is doing just fine. And let's not kid ourselves the last couple of years we can't say we've been a definitively better organization than the Lions __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-04-2004, 06:29 PM	#24
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I really can't see them keeping only 2 QBs __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

08-04-2004, 06:40 PM	#25
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	they have six qbs right now. Brunell, ramsey, hasselback, gardner, tupa and Hamdam. lol Whoever said that Ramsey is a perfect fit for gibbs because he looks downfield first has a very different opinion then I would give. From what I saw last year, and from what they said in camp, Ramsey looks short first. He didnt used to do that, but ever sinec he started getting killed he would be afraid to wait for the deep route to deveolpe. He holds onto the ball long enough, but he doesnt look downfield. i want ramsey to start. I want us to have an experienced backup to help him and be a great backup. But Ramsey is just as good as Brunell now,b ut has more upside. Ramsey was great the begining of last year when he had confidence. He just needs that back, along with all the experience hes gained since then. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-05-2004, 01:17 AM	#29
SKINSnCANES Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: New Jersey Age: 43 Posts: 5,455	i think he had like one pass for a pick on one of the days. Or was that hasselback... one of them has a 0/1 with a pick. __________________ "I'm used to winning, coming from the University of Miami. " Clinton Portis

08-03-2004, 12:50 PM	#16
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 99,913	Through the first 6 games last year he was leading the league in passing yards. I think it's a huge stretch to call him the 3rd best QB, Hasselbeck is solid but nothing spectacular. If Hasselbeck wins the #2 job I'll eat some big time crow, but I don't see any chance of that happening. Irish, what has happened so far in camp that would make you proclaim Ramsey a disappointment and #3 on the depth chart? It's not like he's stunk up the joint while Brunell and Hasselbeck have shined. They've all had their moments. Brunell hasn't been all that sharp and neither has Hasselbeck. They all seem to be on the same page right now.

08-03-2004, 02:33 PM	#18
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575

08-04-2004, 01:41 PM	#20
irish Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 4,575	The last few days I had read all about how TH is doing great while PR & MB are looking so-so. Todays paper made it sound like MB & PR looked good in last night's super secret scrimmage game at potomac falls high school. In the end I think TH would be a better back-up qb than PR because he does not see himself as a potential star while PR believes he is a star in the making and would not deal well with being a back-up. I am certain that if the skins keep only 2 qbs then TH and his piece of ass wife will be riding off into the sunset.

08-04-2004, 02:45 PM	#23
Redskins_P Fight for old DC! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Aldie, VA Age: 47 Posts: 4,101	Irish seems to have something against everyone.....he's kind of bitter.

08-04-2004, 11:35 PM	#27
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 61 Posts: 3,097	Joe C., has Hamdan had any rep's? If so, how has he looked?

08-04-2004, 11:50 PM	#28
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	you can check the play by plays, but so far he gets very very few reps and looks very much like a 4th string QB..

08-05-2004, 01:41 AM	#30
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	the reps have been MB 9/PR 9/TH 6/GH 1-3 or something like that...

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