CBA talks have broken down again

Schneed10 · 03-01-2006, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Huddle

That Guy...

I think you posted that Brunell could be cut after June 1 to save 4.5 mil on the cap. If that's correct, and assuming there might be other vets in that category, doesn't that suggest that the shaping of our roster might be a two-phase operation?

Without a CBA extension, 2006 becomes the last capped year. Therefore, cutting a player in 2006 accelerates all of the signing bonus to 2006, regardless of when you cut the player. Even if we cut Brunell, Arrington, or anyone else after June 1, it will not change the cap hit at all.

If you look here, and look at the release fee tab, the situation becomes simple. The 2006 number represents what the player would cost if he stayed on our team. The R Fee number represents what the player would cost if we cut him, no matter when the cut occurs.

Monksdown · 03-01-2006, 10:45 AM

If there is no extension by the deadline. How likely would it be that they negotiated a new one before the 2007 season?

RedskinPete · 03-01-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Monksdown

If there is no extension by the deadline. How likely would it be that they negotiated a new one before the 2007 season?

Upshaw said that the PA would never go for a cap if it droped in 06 dead line of march 3rd! As for a new CBA there will be a new one at some point. Like in wars a peace treaty is signed to end the war! In this war PA vs Owners both will lose!

SmootSmack · 03-01-2006, 04:47 PM

One last hope?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5371610

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-01-2006, 04:48 PM

Maske just posted (Wed. at 1:40 p.m.) a new article on the WP about this mess. It's a good read and summarizes the consequences of the lack of a new CBA.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042201154.html

CrazyCanuck · 03-01-2006, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Hey Canuck,

If you see this, could you answer the following question? The cap sheets that we have up shows the veterans' cap figures. I understand that veterans' salaries are higher than their cap figures since teams get cap "rebates" if they sign older veterans. Do your cap figures reflect these "rebates?"

Sorry just saw this now.

Ya it's reflected in my sheets. Take Ethan Albright for example. His salary is listed at $770 on the Salaries page. To account for the veteran rebate I added a negative bonus of $310K for him on the OtherBonuses page. So his cap hit on the CapSummary page is $770K - $310K + $25K signing bonus for a total cap hit of $485K.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-01-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

One last hope?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5371610

Why the owners are waiting until 8 hours before the deadline to meet is beyond me.

I'm ready to break out my white Nikes and the Kool-aid.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-01-2006, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Sorry just saw this now.

Ya it's reflected in my sheets. Take Ethan Albright for example. His salary is listed at $770 on the Salaries page. To account for the veteran rebate I added a negative bonus of $310K for him on the OtherBonuses page. So his cap hit on the CapSummary page is $770K - $310K + $25K signing bonus for a total cap hit of $485K.

Damn Canuck, you are one smart dude. It must have taken you a long ass time to finish those sheets. On behalf of everyone, thanks.

That Guy · 03-01-2006, 05:02 PM

its been really useful, took me a while to figure out how truely screwed we'd be without a new cba though.

TheMalcolmConnection · 03-01-2006, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Why the owners are waiting until 8 hours before the deadline to meet is beyond me.

I'm ready to break out my white Nikes and the Kool-aid.

Shit, we can't even afford Nikes. I have to wear my L.A. Gear!

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 03-01-2006, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Shit, we can't even afford Nikes. I have to wear my L.A. Gear!

Them's sweet. I'm rockin' the LA Gear with the black-white laces.

SmootSmack · 03-01-2006, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Why the owners are waiting until 8 hours before the deadline to meet is beyond me.

I'm ready to break out my white Nikes and the Kool-aid.

Longtimefan · 03-01-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Master4Caster

Posturing on both sides. I think this gets done at the last moment.

If it doesn't the whole league is impacted. The Redskins let a lot of quality people go, but so do a lot of other teams. What I don't like is disruption to team continuity. It takes two or three seasons for a team to jell.

I agree, think this will get done at the very last minute. There's far too much to loose on both sides by it not getting done. Goes far beyond a no-capped year and the cutting of players. Desertification of the Union and a possible lockout in 08 will have a far more devestating effect longterm for both the league and the fans. Keep the faith guys, it will get done.

RedskinPete · 03-01-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I agree, think this will get done at the very last minute. There's far too much to loose on both sides by it not getting done. Goes far beyond a no-capped year and the cutting of players. Desertification of the Union and a possible lockout in 08 will have a far more devestating effect longterm for both the league and the fans. Keep the faith guys, it will get done.

I don't think it will after hearimg what 49ers and Raiders FO types are saying! The PA wants the money and the owners are not giving in!

03-01-2006, 10:45 AM	#47
Monksdown The Starter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Warrenton, Virginia Age: 45 Posts: 1,515	Re: CBA talks have broken down again If there is no extension by the deadline. How likely would it be that they negotiated a new one before the 2007 season?

03-01-2006, 04:47 PM	#49
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: CBA talks have broken down again One last hope? http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5371610 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-01-2006, 04:48 PM	#50
Sheriff Gonna Getcha Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 46 Posts: 8,317	Re: CBA talks have broken down again Maske just posted (Wed. at 1:40 p.m.) a new article on the WP about this mess. It's a good read and summarizes the consequences of the lack of a new CBA. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042201154.html

03-01-2006, 05:02 PM	#54
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: CBA talks have broken down again its been really useful, took me a while to figure out how truely screwed we'd be without a new cba though.

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