Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin"

That Guy · 02-04-2006, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

do you favor drafting a TE or would you think it would be better to move cooley to a permanent TE ?

cooley already is a TE, regardless of what gibbs is calling him that day. However we run a LOT of two TE sets and royal is average at best and we have a chance to get a good upgrade that'd be cheap enough to keep around forever.

sellers is closer to the actual hback role where he serves as the blocking fullback and sometimes acts like a TE.

Its just that everyone seems so caught up on size, and TEs are generally taller than WRs and bigger targets/better blockers to boot, and we run lots of two TE, so why not go that route and really solidify an extra red zone target instead of getting a big slow WR who doen't really stand out just because he's big.

Dana87 · 02-04-2006, 11:15 PM

Is it just me or is Bill Polian getting his little panties in a bunch. He didn't just say that they are going to make sure Reggie Wayne stays a Colt, he went out of his way to say that he won't be a Redskin. Sounds like some GM's might be getting a little nervous about the Redskins. Don't worry little Billy us Bad Ol Redkins will leave your Wayneeee alone. FOR NOW!!! But don't go and start feeling safe now, cuz we will get another WR and be back in the Super Bowl while you and your precious Colts watch.

BigSKINBauer · 02-04-2006, 11:34 PM

Maybe he will be worrying when we meet in exactly one year

also EXACTLY 1 year from now 2/4/06 10:35 we will have just finished up our season with a win in the super bowl

wolfeskins · 02-05-2006, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

cooley already is a TE, regardless of what gibbs is calling him that day. However we run a LOT of two TE sets and royal is average at best and we have a chance to get a good upgrade that'd be cheap enough to keep around forever.

sellers is closer to the actual hback role where he serves as the blocking fullback and sometimes acts like a TE.

Its just that everyone seems so caught up on size, and TEs are generally taller than WRs and bigger targets/better blockers to boot, and we run lots of two TE, so why not go that route and really solidify an extra red zone target instead of getting a big slow WR who doen't really stand out just because he's big.

yea, i tend to agree with you. what i was trying to get at when i asked about drafting a TE or using cooley as a full time TE was now that saunders has control of the offense do you think cooley could be used the way gonzalas was used in KC ? and if so , do you think the skins would be wise to draft a TE with their 2nd or 3rd round picks.my thinking is if they try to use cooley like gonzalas then the skins need to focus on a different position (like wr or de)
i've heard alot of people mention TE as a possible top prioity for the skins but the cooley factor makes me question that.
i hope i explained my questioning a little bit better.

celts32 · 02-05-2006, 04:44 PM

I can't believe the Colts are going to pay Wayne as a franchise wr. That means something like the average of the top 5 WR's. Wayne is a great #2, but is completely unproven as a #1 WR yet they are going to pay him like one of the top players in the league. You have no idea what kind of player he would be without Harrison on the other side. He is all yours Bill Polian...

12thMan · 02-06-2006, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celts32

I can't believe the Colts are going to pay Wayne as a franchise wr. That means something like the average of the top 5 WR's. Wayne is a great #2, but is completely unproven as a #1 WR yet they are going to pay him like one of the top players in the league. You have no idea what kind of player he would be without Harrison on the other side. He is all yours Bill Polian...

I believe he'll get around $7.7 mil. For that money, keep him.

That Guy · 02-06-2006, 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

yea, i tend to agree with you. what i was trying to get at when i asked about drafting a TE or using cooley as a full time TE was now that saunders has control of the offense do you think cooley could be used the way gonzalas was used in KC ? and if so , do you think the skins would be wise to draft a TE with their 2nd or 3rd round picks.my thinking is if they try to use cooley like gonzalas then the skins need to focus on a different position (like wr or de)
i've heard alot of people mention TE as a possible top prioity for the skins but the cooley factor makes me question that.
i hope i explained my questioning a little bit better.

well, in the 3rd or 4th we could get tim day who's one of those rare blocking TEs that can also catch (better than royal, and slightly faster i believe). but if you have a 2 TE offense, than getting a better #2 TE woulddn't hurt and there's good 6'6" and 6'7" TEs this year. I'd agree if you're saying WR #2 is a bigger priority, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't also upgrade over royal if possible. I was also justs mentioning that if you really want a big WR, then get the 6'7" 260lb versions

RedskinPete · 02-06-2006, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by celts32

I can't believe the Colts are going to pay Wayne as a franchise wr. That means something like the average of the top 5 WR's. Wayne is a great #2, but is completely unproven as a #1 WR yet they are going to pay him like one of the top players in the league. You have no idea what kind of player he would be without Harrison on the other side. He is all yours Bill Polian...

If this is true James is goen!!! What do they do with the running games and the D is still light!

amorentz · 02-06-2006, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12thMan

I believe he'll get around $7.7 mil. For that money, keep him.

The numbers were announced on Sunday:

Quarterbacks will carry a franchise tag of $8,789,000 and a transition tag of $8,327,000. Wide receivers will carry a franchise tag of $6,172,000 and a transition tag of $5,160,000. Offensive lineman will carry a franchise tag of $6,983,000 and a transition tag of $6,391,000. Running backs will carry a franchise tag of $6,085,000 and a transition tag of $5,153,000. Tight ends will carry a franchise tag of $3,327,000 and a transition tag of $2,718,000.

Defensive ends will carry a franchise tag of $8,332,000 and a transition tag of $7,075,000. Linebackers will carry a franchise tag of $7,169,000 and a transition tag of $6,144,000. Cornerbacks will carry a franchise tag of $5,893,000 and a transition tag of $4,744,000. Defensive tackles will carry a franchise tag of $5,656,000 and a transition tag of $4,463,000. Safeties will carry a franchise tag of $4,109,000 and a transition tag of $3,592,000.

12thMan · 02-06-2006, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amorentz

The numbers were announced on Sunday:

Quarterbacks will carry a franchise tag of $8,789,000 and a transition tag of $8,327,000. Wide receivers will carry a franchise tag of $6,172,000 and a transition tag of $5,160,000. Offensive lineman will carry a franchise tag of $6,983,000 and a transition tag of $6,391,000. Running backs will carry a franchise tag of $6,085,000 and a transition tag of $5,153,000. Tight ends will carry a franchise tag of $3,327,000 and a transition tag of $2,718,000.

Defensive ends will carry a franchise tag of $8,332,000 and a transition tag of $7,075,000. Linebackers will carry a franchise tag of $7,169,000 and a transition tag of $6,144,000. Cornerbacks will carry a franchise tag of $5,893,000 and a transition tag of $4,744,000. Defensive tackles will carry a franchise tag of $5,656,000 and a transition tag of $4,463,000. Safeties will carry a franchise tag of $4,109,000 and a transition tag of $3,592,000.

The WP reported that figure at $7.76, I would imagine he could still fetch close to $7 mil even at that revised figure.

That number makes Santana look more and more like a steal!

wolfeskins · 02-06-2006, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That Guy

well, in the 3rd or 4th we could get tim day who's one of those rare blocking TEs that can also catch (better than royal, and slightly faster i believe). but if you have a 2 TE offense, than getting a better #2 TE woulddn't hurt and there's good 6'6" and 6'7" TEs this year. I'd agree if you're saying WR #2 is a bigger priority, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't also upgrade over royal if possible. I was also justs mentioning that if you really want a big WR, then get the 6'7" 260lb versions

i agree with you about upgrading over royal. did saunders use a two TE set in kc all the time, most of the time, sometimes, not very much or none ?

i do think a #2 wr is a huge priority but i'm not sure if it needs to be a big wr.

That Guy · 02-07-2006, 04:09 AM

lots of 2 TE, he ran max protects and such a lot with Gonzo and J Dunn (who was mainly a blocking TE).

Hog1 · 02-07-2006, 08:10 AM

It's kind of wierd that the Colts owner mentions in his statements to the press, "Wayne will not be a Redskin!". I wonder why he calls us by name, as I am sure many teams would be interested in him?

That Guy · 02-07-2006, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog1

It's kind of wierd that the Colts owner mentions in his statements to the press, "Wayne will not be a Redskin!". I wonder why he calls us by name, as I am sure many teams would be interested in him?

he's from the U and we've gotten into a bit of a habit of grabbing those players

maybe portis was already calling wayne and telling him about how great it'd be for him to come here. I'm sure they talk... portis seems to talk to all those guys.

02-04-2006, 11:15 PM	#32
Dana87 Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Saint Augustine, Florida Age: 64 Posts: 130	Re: Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin" Is it just me or is Bill Polian getting his little panties in a bunch. He didn't just say that they are going to make sure Reggie Wayne stays a Colt, he went out of his way to say that he won't be a Redskin. Sounds like some GM's might be getting a little nervous about the Redskins. Don't worry little Billy us Bad Ol Redkins will leave your Wayneeee alone. FOR NOW!!! But don't go and start feeling safe now, cuz we will get another WR and be back in the Super Bowl while you and your precious Colts watch. __________________ "Home Field Advantage Throughout the '06 Playoffs"

02-04-2006, 11:34 PM	#33
BigSKINBauer Pro Bowl Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Washington, DC Age: 37 Posts: 5,688	Re: Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin" Maybe he will be worrying when we meet in exactly one year also EXACTLY 1 year from now 2/4/06 10:35 we will have just finished up our season with a win in the super bowl

02-05-2006, 04:44 PM	#35
celts32 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hackettstown NJ Age: 54 Posts: 2,665	Re: Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin" I can't believe the Colts are going to pay Wayne as a franchise wr. That means something like the average of the top 5 WR's. Wayne is a great #2, but is completely unproven as a #1 WR yet they are going to pay him like one of the top players in the league. You have no idea what kind of player he would be without Harrison on the other side. He is all yours Bill Polian... __________________ Section 116 Row 19 “Goal line, goal line. I-left, tight wing, 70 chip on white.” www.facebook.com/HackettstownBeerClub

02-07-2006, 04:09 AM	#42
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,620	Re: Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin" lots of 2 TE, he ran max protects and such a lot with Gonzo and J Dunn (who was mainly a blocking TE).

02-07-2006, 08:10 AM	#43
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin" It's kind of wierd that the Colts owner mentions in his statements to the press, "Wayne will not be a Redskin!". I wonder why he calls us by name, as I am sure many teams would be interested in him? __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

Wayne "Won't Be a Redskin"

Locker Room Main Forum