CBA -- What exactly happens.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I don't have a clue what it all means, either. One thing I don't want to see though, is another strike.

That's what killed the NHL, and it took Major League Baseball quite awhile to recover from their strike as well. Some say that Mark MacGuire and Sammy Sosa's single season home-run record breaking race is what saved baseball.

Actually, the NHL is doing QUITE nicley compared to the seasons before the strike. Attendance is up, the TV deal is dead which is a killer. Dont know if you're a hockey fan or not, but the way the game is played under the "new rules", I think its actually quite good and I was a really "Fringe" fan before the strike, and I've probably sat down and actually watched more hockey games this year than I have in my life combined.. Just my opinion though.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Actually, the NHL is doing QUITE nicley compared to the seasons before the strike. Attendance is up, the TV deal is dead which is a killer. Dont know if you're a hockey fan or not, but the way the game is played under the "new rules", I think its actually quite good and I was a really "Fringe" fan before the strike, and I've probably sat down and actually watched more hockey games this year than I have in my life combined.. Just my opinion though.

For the record, no, I'm not a hockey fan. Football is the ONLY sport I watch on television. And I don't go to sporting events, either.

I've heard from 'sports fans' in general who have said that hockey over the past several years is losing ground as America's 4th major sport. While apparently the rule changes have helped hockey regain some momentum, I'd say it's still well behind the NFL, college football, college basketball, the NBA, Major League Baseball, and NASCAR.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

For the record, no, I'm not a hockey fan. Football is the ONLY sport I watch on television. And I don't go to sporting events, either.

I've heard from 'sports fans' in general who have said that hockey over the past several years is losing ground as America's 4th major sport. While apparently the rule changes have helped hockey regain some momentum, I'd say it's still well behind the NFL, college football, college basketball, the NBA, Major League Baseball, and NASCAR.

Oh yes, you're right. Its actually already way out of the #4 sport. I'd put Golf, College/Football&Basketball, NBA, and NFL, Nascar in front of it. I was just saying htat its actually doing better.

However, if you can belive it, the NFL is soon going to be taken over as the #1 sport by....NASCAR! IF you can belive that. Nascar is currently the #2 behind the NFL and gaining ground rapidly.

[Sociofan]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Oh yes, you're right. Its actually already way out of the #4 sport. I'd put Golf, College/Football&Basketball, NBA, and NFL, Nascar in front of it. I was just saying htat its actually doing better.

However, if you can belive it, the NFL is soon going to be taken over as the #1 sport by....NASCAR! IF you can belive that. Nascar is currently the #2 behind the NFL and gaining ground rapidly.

NASCAR is NOT a sport...unless you count competitions like chess and bowling as "sports".

The real problem with revenue sharing at this point is what exactly constitutes revenue? Should that include parking fees? Concessions? Local radio revenues? The other teams in the league want a broader interpretation because they argue that "large market" teams have an advantage with their larger fan bases contributing to more "local" revenues. The NFLPA and smaller market owners want those extra dollars counted toward revenues and ultimately, salary caps.

And as for hockey...here is a secret: it's actually more exciting to watch live than football. GO CAPS!

[LongTimeSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Sociofan

NASCAR is NOT a sport...unless you count competitions like chess and bowling as "sports".

It is a sport once an accident of significant proportions occurs, then all the beer-swilling ball cap donned fans hollar out, "They blowed up reeeeeeaaaaaalllll good". This is a similar to the effect seen in NHL where a certain percentage attend the game in hopes a fight will break out and total chaos erupts. People are paying the ticket price for the potential of bodily injury and destruction of property.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

However, if you can belive it, the NFL is soon going to be taken over as the #1 sport by....NASCAR! IF you can belive that. Nascar is currently the #2 behind the NFL and gaining ground rapidly.

I've heard this as well. But #1 in terms of what? Attendance? TV deals and ratings? Nobody's coming close the NFL's $3.7 billion deal, I'm pretty sure of that. While NASCAR has over 100,000 people in the seats in just about every race, there are way more NFL games all together. I'd be interested to see how it breaks down proportionately.

I love what Bill Maher said about NASCAR -- you can't convince me that people don't watch NASCAR in hopes of witnessing a devastating multi-car crash. Otherwise, you're just watching traffic.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I've heard this as well. But #1 in terms of what? Attendance? TV deals and ratings? Nobody's coming close the NFL's $3.7 billion deal, I'm pretty sure of that. While NASCAR has over 100,000 people in the seats in just about every race, there are way more NFL games all together. I'd be interested to see how it breaks down proportionately.

yea, i have this arguement all the time with my brother-in-law. he always uses that "more attendance" arguement but as i tell him if you count the attendance from every football stadium during sunday games vs. attendance at nascars biggest track, nfl wins in a land slide. heck, washington averages something like 94,000 alone.