How likely is it Ron and the front office will pursue Aaron Rogers?

[Chief X_Phackter]

This team is definitely in the playoffs in 2021 with AR instead of TH. Does he give the team six more wins? Hard to say, as the defense was abysmal for parts of the season, and COVID/injuries hit at the worst time. He doesn't change those facts.

Either one of those three QBs has this team in the playoffs though, likely every year for a while.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

This team is definitely in the playoffs in 2021 with AR instead of TH. Does he give the team six more wins? Hard to say, as the defense was abysmal for parts of the season, and COVID/injuries hit at the worst time. He doesn't change those facts.

Either one of those three QBs has this team in the playoffs though, likely every year for a while.

People really seem to forget how absolutely terrible our defense was for the first half of the season. I mean they were absooooooooooooolutely terrible. Like winning games in spite of them terrible. A-Rod isn't gonna fix that.

But at the same time - if you don't have an above-average to elite qb you ain't got shit in this league. A-Rod would solve one piece of the puzzle. I still think we need an elite MLB to help the D too.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

People really seem to forget how absolutely terrible our defense was for the first half of the season. I mean they were absooooooooooooolutely terrible. Like winning games in spite of them terrible. A-Rod isn't gonna fix that.

And yet we were in so many games that we lost. Some fell apart late like KC, and NO because our D was gassed…why were they gassed? Because our freakin offense couldn’t keep them off the field. AR keeps em off the field, and scores more points.

He needs to make up for 4 points against the Chargers, 7 against Dallas, 7 against Denver, 4 against Philly, etc. It is utter nonsense to say he doesn’t score that many more points than an offense with TH at the helm.
He keeps our defense fresh against KC and NO, and again we score more points. Im sorry but he wins us 6 more games easy and I don’t think it is even a question. Unless, again, you think it is a question about whether he can score 4 more points than Taylor. Or a touchdown here, or there. He does much more than that.

[rocnrik]

No doubt that A-Rod would have led us to a playoff run .. 7 wins with Taylor tells me a lot is right with this team .. A-Rod easy gets 3 more wins !

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

And yet we were in so many games that we lost. Some fell apart late like KC, and NO because our D was gassed…why were they gassed? Because our freakin offense couldn’t keep them off the field. AR keeps em off the field, and scores more points.

He needs to make up for 4 points against the Chargers, 7 against Dallas, 7 against Denver, 4 against Philly, etc. It is utter nonsense to say he doesn’t score that many more points than an offense with TH at the helm.
He keeps our defense fresh against KC and NO, and again we score more points. Im sorry but he wins us 6 more games easy and I don’t think it is even a question. Unless, again, you think it is a question about whether he can score 4 more points than Taylor. Or a touchdown here, or there. He does much more than that.

I feel like the courtesy of time has allowed your memory to fade of how terrible some of those losses were. We were never in it against some of these teams - a pity td at the end here and there made at least a few of those losses seem less terrible. But we were never in those games because the D let it get out of hand early. Only when the games were out of hand did we score pity TD's that made things seem not so bad.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

I feel like the courtesy of time has allowed your memory to fade of how terrible some of those losses were. We were never in it against some of these teams - a pity td at the end here and there made at least a few of those losses seem less terrible. But we were never in those games because the D let it get out of hand early. Only when the games were out of hand did we score pity TD's that made things seem not so bad.

Be specific? We were in the KC game into the fourth quarter and it got away at the end when our D was gassed. We were beating SD in the fourth quarter. Saints game was close with 7 minutes left. Both Philly games were close. First Dallas game we rallied - wasn’t junk scores. Denver came down to the end.

Not sure where my memory is faded?

Other than Buffalo and Dallas -2 there were no other terrible losses Mooby.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by mooby

I feel like the courtesy of time has allowed your memory to fade of how terrible some of those losses were. We were never in it against some of these teams - a pity td at the end here and there made at least a few of those losses seem less terrible. But we were never in those games because the D let it get out of hand early. Only when the games were out of hand did we score pity TD's that made things seem not so bad.

We were up by 3 on the Chargers heading into the 4th quarter (lost our starting QB)
We were down by 4 to the Saints heading into the 4th quarter
We were tied with the Broncos heading into the 4th quarter
We were down by 3 to the Eagles just into the 4th quarter in December (Garrett Gilbert)
We were up by 2 on the Eagles heading into the 4th quarter in January

Likely win all five of those games with a better QB. Likely win one or two more on top of that with a guy like AR.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Be specific? We were in the KC game into the fourth quarter and it got away at the end when our D was gassed. We were beating SD in the fourth quarter. Saints game was close with 7 minutes left. Both Philly games were close. First Dallas game we rallied - wasn’t junk scores. Denver came down to the end.

Not sure where my memory is faded?

Other than Buffalo and Dallas -2 there were no other terrible losses Mooby.

You’re at the same time splitting hairs and missing the point, an impressive accomplishment. You’re sitting here saying we would have been 13-4. I’m saying nah probably not but we would have undoubtedly been better, I’ll give you 11-6 or 10-7, either way who cares it’s a playoff team. Nobody thinks 2021 Aaron Rodgers wouldn’t have made a difference.

And that’s not the point. The point is he will be 39 come next year’s playoffs. We’re not talking about trading for 2021 Rodgers, we’re talking about 2022 Rodgers. Who would make us better…

But for how long?

And when you could try for Russ or Watson, why would you start with Rodgers? Watson carried horrendous Houston teams to 10 wins and playoff berths and he’s in his 20s. Wilson has made up for horrid offensive line play for years now, and he’s 33.

Rodgers gives you 1-2 years and then we’re right back here. Wilson has won just as many SBs. You’re out of your mind if you think a 39 year old is the player to target with a massive trade offer.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Be specific? We were in the KC game into the fourth quarter and it got away at the end when our D was gassed. We were beating SD in the fourth quarter. Saints game was close with 7 minutes left. Both Philly games were close. First Dallas game we rallied - wasn’t junk scores. Denver came down to the end.

Not sure where my memory is faded?

Other than Buffalo and Dallas -2 there were no other terrible losses Mooby.

I'll concede, maybe it's my memory that's faded because I truly believe the first half of the year our defense was straight ass and we won in spite of them. I definitely remember the lack of pressure our "stud" defensive line was getting though. I remember our coverages getting burnt weekly too. A-Rod ain't gonna fix that.

[Chief X_Phackter]

You're not wrong, I remember the same straight ass defense. However, while the D-line wasn't playing up to the very lofty expectations, in my opinion it was the back 7 that were the culprits. The line was getting pressure, just not sealing the deal with sacks. Either way the defense sucked for the most part.

[VTSkins1961]

I hope we do not pursue Rogers pre-madonna. He is good but seriously doubt he would come here. No QB's over 30 is my thought...

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

I'll concede, maybe it's my memory that's faded because I truly believe the first half of the year our defense was straight ass and we won in spite of them. I definitely remember the lack of pressure our "stud" defensive line was getting though. I remember our coverages getting burnt weekly too. A-Rod ain't gonna fix that.

Our defense was straight ass, but somehow we either lost close or were in it late before it got away. AR wouldn’t fix the defense (though he would have kept them off the field ) but he certainly could have scored more points than TH did - changing many of those outcomes. How many times did we settle for 3? I remember countless 3’s that could have been 7’s with better quarterback play. It’s all just hyperbole anyway cus he wasn’t here then and he aint coming here now. Unfortunately.

[AnonEmouse]

Right now I'd be putting feelers out about Jimmy G. I know everyone looks at his inability to finish games like last night, but if you look beyond that I think he would be a sound interim 1-2 year starter while we look for 'our guy' in the draft. He can win games. He has playoff experience. He performs well with protection. For me he's the new Alex Smith, as long as we don't hand him the same kind of dumb contract we handed Smith.

He may not win a SB for us, but he's a marked improvement on what we have in the QB room. Given the praise he's earned from his team mates and Shanny, he's got to have the leadership skills, and he's got the physical skills TH doesn't have. For now, until we draft a franchise QB, he's better than any projected FA (hell 9ers might even have to cut him to drop that $25M hit) and likely wouldn't be too costly as a trade target (and I certainly wouldn't trade too much away in any case). Competition from other needy teams is the only issue. Interesting market between now and April.

[skinsfaninok]

There is no guarantee SF is letting him go.. Is Lance really ready?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

There is no guarantee SF is letting him go.. Is Lance really ready?

They either deal him this offseason while he's still under contact or he's going to walk away after next year for nothing.