Fresh Start Political Thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Are we still blaming the NRA for this school shooting? I know no one here knew anything beforehand but just blamed the NRA anyways, the moment it happened. Oh, and that young adult is already out of prison on bond. Damn NRA again. And I'm just asking for a friend.

The fact that it happen in Texas seems lost on you?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Are we still blaming the NRA for this school shooting? I know no one here knew anything beforehand but just blamed the NRA anyways, the moment it happened. Oh, and that young adult is already out of prison on bond. Damn NRA again. And I'm just asking for a friend.

What do you mean “just blamed the nra anyway “? Lol. This isn’t a lets way to all the facts come out. Only way NRA isn’t ultimately responsible is if Junior built his own gun SD. Otherwise it was bought somewhere and as long as guns are as easy to buy as baseball cards there will be plenty of them in circulation for nut jobs and children to getvtheir hands on them.

The NRA is the obstacle between what we have now, and what we could have with better gun control laws.
They obviously want every man woman and child no matter their age or mental health to have a gun. And as long as they are funding the GOP, the GOP will never allow stricter gun control laws. Stop acting like playing connect the dots there is the Pythagorean theorem when it is clearly 1+1.

No they did not pull the trigger. Yes that gun was super easy for junior to get his hands on, and it doesn’t have to be.

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...uns-lies-fear/

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Another school shooting. Another example of how the NRA funding the Republican party is getting in the way of gun control (I REPEAT GUN CONTROL NOT TAKING YOUR GUNS AWAY) and killing people. I mean all ya gotta do is look at almost any other country in the world to see we have a major fucking problem and there is a solution.

https://abc13.com/texas-high-school-...gton/11089609/

From the article:

Rockhold said he has served in the military and he drew on that experience to instruct his son, telling him to keep his head down and be still to stay safe. When asked whether he had thought a shooting could happen at the school, he said his military training is also a reminder of life's dangerous realities.

I cannot stress this enough but in an active shooter situation this is one of the worst things you can do. If you guys ever find yourself in the situation do not put your head down and play dead.

Working in a school we receive annual training from BCPD on how to appropriately handle active shooters.

1. If possible and you can safely evacuate
2. Lock down in a room, closet etc. they are looking for easy targets like the guy sitting still with their head down
3. Counterattack throw anything you have at the assailant and run at him/her and scream. Less than 10% of police officers hit their target when under duress and it is significantly less for citizens. Once distracted assailants are easy to subdue. Especially in a work place where you are likely to outnumber the assailant.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

More great news for CA:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/07/busin...usk/index.html

Bye Tesla!!!

So he is moving from one state with electrical grid issues to another state with electrical grid issues? Being a genius does not equate to common sense.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Are we still blaming the NRA for this school shooting? I know no one here knew anything beforehand but just blamed the NRA anyways, the moment it happened. Oh, and that young adult is already out of prison on bond. Damn NRA again. And I'm just asking for a friend.

It’s amazing he got bond.

Here is why gun violence is spiking in shitholes across the country like Chicago:

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2021/10...ht-no-charges/

It’s not really a cop issue, it’s the district attorney’s like Foxx who thinks not prosecuting criminals is somehow equity. It happening in Philly, Minneapolis, nyc, LA, Seattle, etc.

The district attorney are personally responsible in the violence spikes across the country because instead of prosecuting based on laws on the books, they are activist who are enabling the acts of a violence across democratic run cities.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

So he is moving from one state with electrical grid issues to another state with electrical grid issues? Being a genius does not equate to common sense.

Moving costs money. So even assuming the grids are equal, there are obviously other reasons why they are leaving for Texas. And they are hardly the 1st CA company to leave for there. CA is doing something wrong that is making businesses pack up shop and leave.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What do you mean “just blamed the nra anyway “? Lol. This isn’t a lets way to all the facts come out. Only way NRA isn’t ultimately responsible is if Junior built his own gun SD. Otherwise it was bought somewhere and as long as guns are as easy to buy as baseball cards there will be plenty of them in circulation for nut jobs and children to getvtheir hands on them.

The NRA is the obstacle between what we have now, and what we could have with better gun control laws.
They obviously want every man woman and child no matter their age or mental health to have a gun. And as long as they are funding the GOP, the GOP will never allow stricter gun control laws. Stop acting like playing connect the dots there is the Pythagorean theorem when it is clearly 1+1.

No they did not pull the trigger. Yes that gun was super easy for junior to get his hands on, and it doesn’t have to be.

https://www.americanprogress.org/iss...uns-lies-fear/

This argument will never change any minds that disagree with you.

So no matter what the gun used is or the circumstances surrounding the shooting, every single shooting is the NRA's and republicans' fault? And let's not wait for the facts to come out to make a judgment? I think waiting for the facts for every situation is a good idea, and especially for something like this.

This shooting, like 99% of all shootings, is one person's fault: The person that pulled the trigger.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

From the article:

Rockhold said he has served in the military and he drew on that experience to instruct his son, telling him to keep his head down and be still to stay safe. When asked whether he had thought a shooting could happen at the school, he said his military training is also a reminder of life's dangerous realities.

I cannot stress this enough but in an active shooter situation this is one of the worst things you can do. If you guys ever find yourself in the situation do not put your head down and play dead.

Working in a school we receive annual training from BCPD on how to appropriately handle active shooters.

1. If possible and you can safely evacuate
2. Lock down in a room, closet etc. they are looking for easy targets like the guy sitting still with their head down
3. Counterattack throw anything you have at the assailant and run at him/her and scream. Less than 10% of police officers hit their target when under duress and it is significantly less for citizens. Once distracted assailants are easy to subdue. Especially in a work place where you are likely to outnumber the assailant.

I understand but I will disagree with you here or maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.. The wife and daughters are school teachers and all teach young ones, Kindergarten,1st and 2nd grades if they can't evacuate to hunker down(my word) and yes cover up in a locked classroom . In their school all the doors are Steele with a 6by6 window(I think). If an "assailant" brings an AK 47 they aren't aiming they're spraying .

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

This argument will never change any minds that disagree with you.

So no matter what the gun used is or the circumstances surrounding the shooting, every single shooting is the NRA's and republicans' fault? And let's not wait for the facts to come out to make a judgment? I think waiting for the facts for every situation is a good idea, and especially for something like this.

This shooting, like 99% of all shootings, is one person's fault: The person that pulled the trigger.

Come on man. In no other country in the world, for the most part, can anyone get their hands on a gun so easy.
It is an epidemic in this country, and that is because there are so many guns in circulation and that is because they are too easy to get. The NRA funds the Republican party so the Republican party leaves gun control alone.
None of what I just wrote is opinion. It is all fact.

In too many other countries these morons cant get their hands on guns so easy to pull the trigger SD. It is why this happens so much in the United States. Nobody is saying they want to take your guns away man.

Maybe just make it harder for every twisted fuck who wants to use them to kill other people to get their hands on one? Is that really an opinion that you do not share?

Should it be so easy for almost anyone to buy a freakin gun??

My father in law owns several and trust me when I tell you that nobody is getting their hands on one of them. They are for the deer. It is inexcusable that so many of these people can get a gun at the drop of a hat. And it is a problem that can be solved if the Republicans would get more involved. They dont for one reason. The NRA’s money. You can call that an opinion but than you might as well call oxygen being necessary for breathing an opinion.

Im not trying to change your mind about the second amendment dude. Nobody is. At this point we might as well sell them in 7-11’s though and that is a fuckin problem.

https://www.theregreview.org/2018/11...o-kill-people/

[punch it in]

There is no argument really SD. The NRA wants you to think there is an argument and so do the politicians they put in power. They want you to think that we want to take your guns away, abolish the second amendment. Make you and your families vulnerable. Etc. It is the total opposite. You and your families aren’t safe because idiots get guns as easy as they get candy.
We want it to be harder for these idiots to get em and we want to save lives by doing so. That cuts into the NRA’s bottom line. And that cuts into the politicians they keep in power from staying in power. Oh well. As usual money, power, and greed are pumping propaganda out to the masses in order to keep the status quo. That is wrong. We are all in favor of good people owning guns for protection. Not for moving metal for money and putting innocent Americans lives at risk for money.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I understand but I will disagree with you here or maybe I'm just misunderstanding you.. The wife and daughters are school teachers and all teach young ones, Kindergarten,1st and 2nd grades if they can't evacuate to hunker down(my word) and yes cover up in a locked classroom . In their school all the doors are Steele with a 6by6 window(I think). If an "assailant" brings an AK 47 they aren't aiming they're spraying .

That is a lock down. You lock and barricade. Not the same as lying still and putting your head down. Once they are in though your best course of action is to counter. They might be spraying but if you have twenty kids all scattered and throwing objects it would be distracting. I certainly wouldn't just sit there if they come through the door.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Come on man. In no other country in the world, for the most part, can anyone get their hands on a gun so easy.
It is an epidemic in this country, and that is because there are so many guns in circulation and that is because they are too easy to get. The NRA funds the Republican party so the Republican party leaves gun control alone.
None of what I just wrote is opinion. It is all fact.

In too many other countries these morons cant get their hands on guns so easy to pull the trigger SD. It is why this happens so much in the United States. Nobody is saying they want to take your guns away man.

Maybe just make it harder for every twisted fuck who wants to use them to kill other people to get their hands on one? Is that really an opinion that you do not share?

Should it be so easy for almost anyone to buy a freakin gun??

My father in law owns several and trust me when I tell you that nobody is getting their hands on one of them. They are for the deer. It is inexcusable that so many of these people can get a gun at the drop of a hat. And it is a problem that can be solved if the Republicans would get more involved. They dont for one reason. The NRA’s money. You can call that an opinion but than you might as well call oxygen being necessary for breathing an opinion.

Im not trying to change your mind about the second amendment dude. Nobody is. At this point we might as well sell them in 7-11’s though and that is a fuckin problem.

https://www.theregreview.org/2018/11...o-kill-people/

I think it should be easy for every American that is legally allowed to own a gun to get one. And I absolutely oppose trying to limit what type of gun people can get.

I'd rather live in a free society with our constitutional rights and possibly die in a random shooting, than live in an oppressed society where the government tells me what I can and can't have. I'll take my chances with my fellow Americans over giving the government control over my life.

I'm not opposed to background checks and improving that process. We have background checks for lots of things, like a job, line of credit, etc.

As a country, we need to spend a lot more time, energy, and money on mental health. And normalizing talking about it and receiving help. I'm a work on progress on this myself, as I think people my age and older often consider people soft for being sensitive, needing help, etc. In actuality, asking for help if needed is probably the most strong-minded thing anyone can do. It takes toughness to let someone in. I know I struggle with sharing things with people I know.

Also, I'm huge on freedoms but with that I'm huge on serious punishment. I'm for legalizing all drugs, but if you are proven guilty of committing a crime while under the influence, then you will face severe prison time. And I think the same for guns, if you are proven guilty of committing a crime with a gun then you face severe prison time. With great power comes great responsibilities.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

Moving costs money. So even assuming the grids are equal, there are obviously other reasons why they are leaving for Texas. And they are hardly the 1st CA company to leave for there. CA is doing something wrong that is making businesses pack up shop and leave.

In addition to political ineptitude I would wager the population of California is way higher than the resources can sustain. Have to import a lot of their energy. The state is built ass backwards. 75% of water is in the upper 50% of the state while 75% of the population is in the lower 50% of the state. Unlike more established regions of the world the United States is still trying to find it's population middle ground. In Texas more space greater access to resources in particular water and electricity do make sense. I am still going to make fun of them for having to turn off the heat when it gets cold and their favorite senator deciding to go to Cancun though.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

In addition to political ineptitude I would wager the population of California is way higher than the resources can sustain. Have to import a lot of their energy. The state is built ass backwards. 75% of water is in the upper 50% of the state while 75% of the population is in the lower 50% of the state. Unlike more established regions of the world the United States is still trying to find it's population middle ground. In Texas more space greater access to resources in particular water and electricity do make sense. I am still going to make fun of them for having to turn off the heat when it gets cold and their favorite senator deciding to go to Cancun though.

It's definitely a weird state. The total money people have here is insane. But it's in the hands of a select few. The rich are extremely rich but I believe we still the highest % of poor, homeless, destitute people in the country as well.

I still can't believe that. Exame 1A of politicians being put of you with reality and their constituents.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I think it should be easy for every American that is legally allowed to own a gun to get one. And I absolutely oppose trying to limit what type of gun people can get.

I'd rather live in a free society with our constitutional rights and possibly die in a random shooting, than live in an oppressed society where the government tells me what I can and can't have. I'll take my chances with my fellow Americans over giving the government control over my life.

I'm not opposed to background checks and improving that process. We have background checks for lots of things, like a job, line of credit, etc.

As a country, we need to spend a lot more time, energy, and money on mental health. And normalizing talking about it and receiving help. I'm a work on progress on this myself, as I think people my age and older often consider people soft for being sensitive, needing help, etc. In actuality, asking for help if needed is probably the most strong-minded thing anyone can do. It takes toughness to let someone in. I know I struggle with sharing things with people I know.

Also, I'm huge on freedoms but with that I'm huge on serious punishment. I'm for legalizing all drugs, but if you are proven guilty of committing a crime while under the influence, then you will face severe prison time. And I think the same for guns, if you are proven guilty of committing a crime with a gun then you face severe prison time. With great power comes great responsibilities.

It isn’t easy to buy a car SD. Or a house. Why should guns be so easy? And why do you need an assault rifle?
By your standards you should be able to drive down a neighborhood street doing 110 cus the government shouldn’t be able to tell you how fast to drive. You should be able to light fires in the woods.
Maybe fly planes without a pilots license while you are at it. This isn’t the fuckin wild west. If it was the whole country would be a damn ghost town. That kind of attitude is the reason we need laws and rules in place. And being told you cannot own a grenade launcher doesn’t make you oppressed. Not even close.

I agree about addressing mental health 100 percent though. I hope you get whatever help you need SD - in my book you are the tits. We disagree on shit thats all. My daughter is going through some stuff right now and it is the toughest thing ive ever dealt with. Good luck brother.