Fresh Start Political Thread

[MTK]

Calling a weeks old fetus a baby is so weird if you ask me.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Calling a weeks old fetus a baby is so weird if you ask me.

If a fetus isn't a human how does it turn into a human? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not human, if you ask me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If a fetus isn't a human how does it turn into a human? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not human, if you ask me.

Now you're moving the goal posts. You called it a baby so that's what I was responding to.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

Now you're moving the goal posts. You called it a baby so that's what I was responding to.

A baby is a human. Wasn't moving any goalposts.

I'll revise:

If a fetus isn't a baby how does it turn into a baby? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life, starting at formation, until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not babies, if you ask me.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A baby is a human. Wasn't moving any goalposts.

I'll revise:

If a fetus isn't a baby how does it turn into a baby? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life, starting at formation, until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not babies, if you ask me.

I'll just respectfully bow out here. Like Chico was saying, there's a middle ground here. Texas is not allowing for that and that's the problem. Often times a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant within 6 weeks. It's just not a reasonable situation.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by MTK

I'll just respectfully bow out here. Like Chico was saying, there's a middle ground here. Texas is not allowing for that and that's the problem. Often times a woman doesn't even know she's pregnant within 6 weeks. It's just not a reasonable situation.

I'll bow out too. I will agree to disagree with a lot of people on this one. And honestly I was discussing abortion in general not this law specifically, which is my bad as that's where this started.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

A baby is a human. Wasn't moving any goalposts.

I'll revise:

If a fetus isn't a baby how does it turn into a baby? We're all constantly in different stages of human-life, starting at formation, until we die. I find it weird that people act like they're not babies, if you ask me.

I feel like you're smarter than this.

It takes 9 months to go from an embryo to a living, breathing baby. This next part is uninformed but based on my very minimal research it takes 20ish weeks to get from the stage where it's just a bunch of cells to an actual developed baby.

If this offends you, just think about the millions of kids I've aborted prematurely. They died for my sins.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by mooby

I feel like you're smarter than this.

It takes 9 months to go from an embryo to a living, breathing baby. This next part is uninformed but based on my very minimal research it takes 20ish weeks to get from the stage where it's just a bunch of cells to an actual developed baby.

If this offends you, just think about the millions of kids I've aborted prematurely. They died for my sins.

I believe human/baby/homosapien life begins at conception. That's the formation of my thinking on this matter. I'll leave it at that.

Note - Thanks for that image lol

[mooby]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

I believe human/baby life begins at conception. That's the formation of my thinking on this matter. I'll leave it at that.

Note - Thanks for that image lol

I will also respectfully bow out, as we are not going to agree on this matter.

Apologies for my aggressiveness.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Calling a weeks old fetus a baby is so weird if you ask me.

I think there is some middle ground. Certainly aboarding child on date of birth is murder.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think there is some middle ground. Certainly aboarding child on date of birth is murder.

No doubt there's some middle ground. Texas however is not agreeing to any middle ground right now.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I think there is some middle ground. Certainly aboarding child on date of birth is murder.

Vast majority think somewhere btw 18-24 weeks is a fair balance. Gives the woman enough time to discover the pregnancy and make a decision before the fetus turns too much into a viable fetus.

Technically Roe is not overturned but this is equivalent to a State banning ammo. You can still own guns. Your right to bear arms is still entact but theres no where to buy ammo just like the abortion clinics in Texas arent performing abortions right now.

All those liberals screaming Kav and Amy would take away a womans right to an abortion have been proven correct.

SCOTUS has failed to protect federal and Constitutional law. They are now playing current climate politics. The SCOTUS is derelict of duty imo.

Will Constitutional and settled law now change each time the bench does? With the SCOTUS decisions leaning whichever way their political appointees want them to?

Im disappointed.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

Calling a weeks old fetus a baby is so weird if you ask me.

I understand his position. It's where you believe a fetus becomes a human life. Some believe that is at conception, some believe when it takes it a first breath outside the womb, some when a baby becomes viable outside the womb etc.. You have to oppose ending innocent life so I don't knock those that support a total ban - I just think it is one of the extremes - I do think their tactics and policies undermine more restrictive abortion laws though. I'll admit I'm a bit hypocritical in that I will knock those that think the opposite (first breath outside the womb as they support ending lives of babies that are capable of taking that 1st breath but aren't outside the womb yet).