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Old 08-26-2021, 12:46 AM   #1
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I would assume Afghans that assisted American forces - either through translating or through helping via some other manner - IE helping build bases that we lived on or supported projects that we financed - would also be prioritized. I would also think the military would keep track of these people that were cleared to assist them so that they could be helped via green card/etc. later.
Did we have 60,000 translators or other type assistors (for lack of a better word) to America? I'm all for all of them and their families coming here. Their lives are on the line.

But I imagine that's maybe 20,000, and that's probably on the high side.

Who are the other 40,000? How are they vetted? And how are they picked? Millions of Afghanees would come here if it was an option. And this is true we'll before 2021.

A terrorist organization runs their country now. Literally everyone that isn't in the Taliban would seem to me to qualify as a refugee.

Asylum seekers and refugees are a very hard thing to define. Not including Afghanistan right now, because this is a very special circumstance. But it seems like that if anyone that lives in a country that is worse than America (that's every country in the world), they should be allowed to come here, and you're just a scared whitey if you disagree. There are literally billions of people in the world that live in oppressive countries, should they all be allowed in?

Having questions about immigration and the actual amount of people we can take in, doesn't make you an asshole.


Note - the part in bold isn't directed at you specifically, that is just a general discussion based on the conversation in the thread.
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Old 08-26-2021, 07:04 AM   #2
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Did we have 60,000 translators or other type assistors (for lack of a better word) to America? I'm all for all of them and their families coming here. Their lives are on the line.

But I imagine that's maybe 20,000, and that's probably on the high side.

Who are the other 40,000? How are they vetted? And how are they picked? Millions of Afghanees would come here if it was an option. And this is true we'll before 2021.

A terrorist organization runs their country now. Literally everyone that isn't in the Taliban would seem to me to qualify as a refugee.

Asylum seekers and refugees are a very hard thing to define. Not including Afghanistan right now, because this is a very special circumstance. But it seems like that if anyone that lives in a country that is worse than America (that's every country in the world), they should be allowed to come here, and you're just a scared whitey if you disagree. There are literally billions of people in the world that live in oppressive countries, should they all be allowed in?

Having questions about immigration and the actual amount of people we can take in, doesn't make you an asshole.


Note - the part in bold isn't directed at you specifically, that is just a general discussion based on the conversation in the thread.
I imagine several were just fleeing. The Taliban is helping regulate control to airport outside of gate: https://www.democracynow.org/2021/8/..._kabul_airport

So it looks like there is a series of vetting starting with Afghanistan and then inside the airport as well.

To answer your question about refugees and who should be considered? I really don't know. All I know is with decreased social-political and climate stability we are going to have way more people knocking on our door.
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