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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I haven't followed the Afghan situation, but count me in the group that wanted a withdrawal.

If a country/citizenry is fighting an oppressive regime and needs aid, we should do that. BUT it has to be the citizens of their own country first. We are not an empire regardless of how some international media portray us.

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This. You can lead a horse to water.

The main problem I have with Biden is him blaming Trump publicly. That is exactly the kind of shit I hate about Trump. just take responsibility whether Trump did things that made it worse or not.

As for our entire history there and not just the last week…80 billion dollars and twenty years worth of aid and training and for what? A thirty minute fight ? We were never over there to liberate the people froM an oppressive regime anyway. We were there for oil, poppy, minerals. Funny how whenever we are liberating people they happen to live on a mountain of precious commodity.

I find myself wondering why they did not get all the people out first and than the military last?
Obviously they had their reasons. They did greatly underestimate the Taliban and greatly overestimate the security forces.
This article is from a week ago and they were worried Kabul would be overrun in 6 months maybe. Some said 90 days. But this was lightning.

[sdskinsfan2001]

It's pretty boring just being in agreement with (pretty much) everyone. I change my mind. I want to declare war on all of the middle east.

[sdskinsfan2001]

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

Trump wanted a withdrawl.

Biden wanted a withdrawl.

Americans overwhelmingly wanted a withdrawl.

We withdrew.

People trying to criticize Biden seem to have an agenda. Whats new.

Here you go:

The @WSJ editors accurately, succinctly damn @POTUS @JoeBiden. When Taliban violated the Doha agreement —premised on a negotiated power sharing— the U.S. was free to keep Bagram, it’s 2500 troops and NATO’s 5000, to use air power. He could have saved thousands. He chose not to.

To say trump or trump plan is simply laughable.

He fucking chose NOT to enforce the negotiated agreement. Also the Pelosi receipts from disagreeing with trump plan and then endorsing Biden plan the withdrawal from Afghanistan are widely available online.

There is the policy difference and the execution

Imagine being so intellectually dishonest to think this is somehow trump’s doing.

Own it sunnyside….own the worst foreign policy debacle in our lifetime.

These are the same retards who believe Obama Middle East policy was a success.

This is solely A Biden failure…disgraceful


I want you to take this situation and what you would say 2 years ago.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

This. You can lead a horse to water.

The main problem I have with Biden is him blaming Trump publicly. That is exactly the kind of shit I hate about Trump. just take responsibility whether Trump did things that made it worse or not.

As for our entire history there and not just the last week…80 billion dollars and twenty years worth of aid and training and for what? A thirty minute fight ? We were never over there to liberate the people froM an oppressive regime anyway. We were there for oil, poppy, minerals. Funny how whenever we are liberating people they happen to live on a mountain of precious commodity.

I find myself wondering why they did not get all the people out first and than the military last?
Obviously they had their reasons. They did greatly underestimate the Taliban and greatly overestimate the security forces.
This article is from a week ago and they were worried Kabul would be overrun in 6 months maybe. Some said 90 days. But this was lightning.

Imagine not understanding policy, strategy and execution….brushing it aside when things outside the scope

Jfc…leadership…

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Imagine not understanding policy, strategy and execution….brushing it aside when things outside the scope

Jfc…leadership…

Why can’t Biden be more like Trump and you. Stern yet compassionate. Wise but willing to listen to others. Thank God this country has you both to lead us through this dark time. WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN…….AGAIN!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Why can’t Biden be more like Trump and you. Stern yet compassionate. Wise but willing to listen to others. Thank God this country has you both to lead us through this dark time. WE WILL MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN…….AGAIN!

Anyone else think it's laughable that chico now trust all media source's???

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Anyone else think it's laughable that chico now trust all media source's???

I find almost everything about Chico laughable

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Chico - just curious do you still support Trump? Because this was Trump's plan and strategy as well. The Republicans need to go back to being Conservatives as the populist Trumper's isolationism is as bad and possibly worse than the left's can't do defeatism.

Lol see u clean this from yesterday. Smart

Yeah I’ve pointed out the incorrect nuance per the WSJ article of appropriate actionable steps.

Biden had a lot of options…we know that.

Trump really seems to be on your mind, got you editing post at 1am.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Lol see u clean this from yesterday. Smart

Yeah I’ve pointed out the incorrect nuance per the WSJ article of appropriate actionable steps.

Biden had a lot of options…we know that.

Trump really seems to be on your mind, got you editing post at 1am.

The posts and edits show up as EST. I'm 3 hours behind you so this edit was done at at 9:16 pm my time. As for the edit itself not sure what it was as it doesn't look like anything changed so probably an English correction. But my question stands - Trump was planning to abandon Afghanistan as well and actually sooner so why do you still support him?

He was shitty president that destroyed the conservative movement in the Republican party. Why can't you return to being a conservative instead of a populist?

[MTK]

The internet lately

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by MTK

The internet lately

Actually I am an somewhat of an expert on the later. I'd be willing to bet more than anyone else that posts on this board. Let's just say it is not a hobby.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by nonniey

Actually I am an somewhat of an expert on the later. I'd be willing to bet more than anyone else that posts on this board. Let's just say it is not a hobby.

Don't be a tease, we expect full frontal 'round these parts.

[nonniey]

Originally Posted by mooby

Don't be a tease, we expect full frontal 'round these parts.

I'm a retired MI Officer (31 years), but am still in the intelligence community as a civilian.

[mooby]

Oh I was just teasing, you don't actually have to say lol. I practice opsec online too lol, if anything hackers have taught me it's that nothing's private online.