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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
say what you want to about Portis, but the real problem, like someone mentioned earlier in this thread, is the lack of an 2nd WR. Yeah Cooley does well but once Moss is doubled and Cooley is taken away who is our next option?
Remember back when we made the playoffs in '99? We did have 2 downfield threats in Westbrook and Connell. Say what you will about them but they did keep opposing D's honest. This year all we have for a downfield threat is Moss, take that away and stack the box and we are done.
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
Yeah, Portis needs to get into the end zone more. Look at LT to see how much of an impact TDs make.
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
As i have said from day 1...the Portis trade was a disaster. I don't care about Bailey and i don't even care about the wasted 2nd round pick that we threw in for some reason. What i do care about is that Portis is a BAD FIT for Joe Gibbs offense. Putting a back like Portis in Joe Gibbs offense is like putting a square peg in a round hole...it's not working. If you think it is working then why do we line up in shot gun formation on 3rd and 2 at crucuial points in a game? Gibbs built a hall of fame coaching carreer with a power running game as the basis for everything. Portis is a pretty good player...he is just not the player the redskins needed. I have alwasy felt that the skins made that trade out of convenience...denver had a player who didn't want to be there and we had a player who didn't want to be here so lets get together and trade our headaches. And now the skins have 50 million invested in a running back who can not move the pile and play the smash mouth between the tackles football that Gibbs built his reputation playing. Is Gibbs play calling at the end of a game any different now than it was 15 years ago? The answer is no...15 years ago in the 4th quarter with a lead Gibbs called running plays and ran out the clock becasue he had the personel to get it done. This is not Portis's fault it's the redskins fault for bringing him here.
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
I would like to know why Portis not really being an ideal fit for Joe Gibbs' offense is Portis's fault. First of all, if he didn't fit, Joe shouldn't have gotten him.
However, as it stands, he's the league's 9th leading rusher and he's averaging 4.2 ypc. That's more than Willis McGahee and Rudi Johnson, numbers 6 and 8 on the list. The problem is the system he's running in. Joe Gibbs' unwillingness to adapt to the strengths of his players is the damn problem. I'd also like to know why Portis's running is always a problem when we lose games? The only time you all didn't want to bench him after a loss was the game against the Bucs. Another big problem is what Southpaw mentioned, as it stands we have the #9 back in the league and the #15 quarterback according to yards. Other good teams: Seahawks: Alexander #1, Hasselbeck #8 Colts: Edge #3, Peyton #10 Cincy: Johnson #6, Palmer #2 Chargers: LT #5, Brees #7 Giants: Tiki #2, Eli #6 Are you noticing some sort of trend here? Those are all teams who rely on their offense. All of the other good teams rely on D. Since the Skins have shown they really can't rely on defense too much, they need a more balanced attack. |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
Thanks for that stat. I'm listening to more Clinton bashing on the John Thompson show -- Clinton has supporters on the show, too -- and your comparison helps put things in perspective.
It takes ten other guys to deliver the ball to the back (or receiver) to make a play, and evey one of them has to perform for the play to work. If it isn't working, it doesn't just fall on the ball carrier. Sure, I would like to have Tomlinson or Alexander on the team, but they weren't available. Any thought that the Skins would have landed them is wishful thinking. Any thought that Tomlinson or Alexander would perform here as they do on their current team is Snyderitis. Haven't we had enough of that? Last edited by Master4Caster; 11-29-2005 at 02:57 AM. |
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
I just meant that the Skins can't just trot out a good defense and try to control the ball all day in the hopes that that will be enough to win the game. The defense hasn't been great at holding the lead especially when we don't control the ball late in games. Denver and Chicago stop the run and run the football. We haven't really shut down a running back in a few weeks. The ones we have stopped, we've let the team throw on us. The defense is too inconsistent right now to just try to rely on that to win games.
We need a balanced offensive attack to go along with a pretty good d in order to win. |
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I can concur to a greater extent with the sentiments you share because they do have merit. How many games has Clinton been used to run out the clock and preserve wins in the 4th qtr.? & How many 100yd. games does he have against NFC East opponents? |
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
wasnt the portis trade a done deal before coach gibbs came back?
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Re: Interesting tidbit about our running game
Nah, Gibbs made the deal.
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