The hypocrisy of the ________

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by MTK

The fact bulletproof backpacks even exist is pretty sad if you ask me. I'd hope we could all agree on that.

What bad laws are you talking about exactly? We've had a good 20 years of school shootings going back to Columbine, just wondering what "bad laws" we've seen go on the books in response.

.............this doesn't help.


https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/first...mlsafety-07501

Ohio First Graders Removed 'School Safety Gun' From Case In Administrative Office

Ohio school officials were stunned when they discovered that two first grade students had managed to remove a gun intended for school safety from an unlocked box in an administrative office, The Columbus Dispatch reported Friday.

The frightening incident underscores fears that plans to arm teachers supported by President Donald Trump and the National Rifle Association could end up instead putting guns in children’s — or an untrustworthy teacher’s — hands, with catastrophic consequences. Trump wants 20% of teachers armed even though 59% of Americans don’t want any teachers packing guns in schools.



Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
Armed Educators (and trusted people who work within a school) love our students and will protect them. Very smart people. Must be firearms adept & have annual training. Should get yearly bonus. Shootings will not happen again - a big & very inexpensive deterrent. Up to States.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by mooby

Chico, if you want to address the underlying issue of mental health instead of addressing guns I'm all for it. First step, reversing the years of budget cuts to medicare/medicaid. Idk how you can say you want to address the issue of mental health without increasing the budget of one of the main programs that deals with it.

For the record I first fired a .22 rifle at 7 and have been a gun owner since I was 18 when I bought a .38 revolver. That was 40 years ago. 40 years ago mass shootings were rare, also suicides by teenagers and young adults were at 1/2 the rate they are now. One of the big differences I see in that time frame is how many kids are diagnosed with ADHD and the like and medicated. I have known families where all 3 kids were on pills. I guess I am lucky being born in the early 60's. I was always on the honor roll, but wound a little too tight. My solution was exercise, that would knock the edge off so I could concentrate whether at work or school. That actually continued till I was in my early 30's. If I didn't get a morning run in before heading to work I was bouncing off the walls all day. if I was born 30 years later I probably would have been given elephant tranquilizers daily.

I just see too many parents drugging their kids as a problem. Also it seems a lot of psychologists, like that idiot on TV, Dr Phil act like pills and counseling are a cure all for everything. Dr Phil thinks there is no such thing as a bad kid. Some people are just evil and need to be monitored closely, or better yet locked up. The idea that someone who has displayed repeated past disturbing behavior is fixed by meds is absurd.

[SunnySide]

The hypocrisy of the Republicans to blame the troop pull out of Iraq on Pres Obama.

Republicans' Reality:

“President Trump is being told EXACTLY what President Obama was told before he withdrew from Iraq,” Graham tweeted Wednesday. “He appears to be hell-bent on making the same mistakes in Syria as President Obama made in Iraq.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...tical-of-trump

Real Reality:

In late April 2007 Congress passed a supplementary spending bill for Iraq that set a deadline for troop withdrawal but President Bush vetoed this bill, citing his concerns about setting a withdrawal deadline.[8][9][10] The Bush Administration later sought an agreement with the Iraqi government, and in 2008 George W. Bush signed the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. It included a deadline of 31 December 2011, before which "all the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory".[11][12][13] The last U.S. troops left Iraq on 18 December 2011, in accordance with this agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdr...oops_from_Iraq

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/21/iraq.usa

------------------------
Why are democrats allowing republicans to keep repeating that it was Obama who pulled out of Iraq and creating ISIS?

Its clearly, demonstratively that Pres Obama had to pull the troops out by 2011 under the agreement signed by Pres Bush in 2008.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

The hypocrisy of the Republicans to blame the troop pull out of Iraq on Pres Obama.

Republicans' Reality:

“President Trump is being told EXACTLY what President Obama was told before he withdrew from Iraq,” Graham tweeted Wednesday. “He appears to be hell-bent on making the same mistakes in Syria as President Obama made in Iraq.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...tical-of-trump

Real Reality:

In late April 2007 Congress passed a supplementary spending bill for Iraq that set a deadline for troop withdrawal but President Bush vetoed this bill, citing his concerns about setting a withdrawal deadline.[8][9][10] The Bush Administration later sought an agreement with the Iraqi government, and in 2008 George W. Bush signed the U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement. It included a deadline of 31 December 2011, before which "all the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory".[11][12][13] The last U.S. troops left Iraq on 18 December 2011, in accordance with this agreement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdr...oops_from_Iraq

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/aug/21/iraq.usa

------------------------
Why are democrats allowing republicans to keep repeating that it was Obama who pulled out of Iraq and creating ISIS?

Its clearly, demonstratively that Pres Obama had to pull the troops out by 2011 under the agreement signed by Pres Bush in 2008.

People everywhere have just had enough...................

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-to...212504674.html
The retired US Navy Adm. William McRaven, a Navy SEAL who oversaw the raid that took out al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in 2011, gave a bleak assessment of President Donald Trump and alleged the commander in chief was gutting the country of the "nation's principles."
McRaven recounted in a New York Times opinion column a military ceremony he recently attended at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, where he reflected upon the thousands of US service members who marched on the parade field before him.
McRaven pointed out what he said were examples of the US neglecting its duty to be the "the protectors of the less fortunate" — including Trump's recent decision to withdraw troops from Syria as Turkish-backed militants wage war against the once US-backed Kurdish militia.
McRaven added that Trump "is wrong" to think empathy is "unimportant" or shows "weakness."

[CRedskinsRule]

I am digging this thread up, because ultimately Schumer, Schiff, McConnell and Trump all live in a world of hypocrisy, they feed their media stooges their same hypocritical crap, and in the end our population divides itself over the politically motivated hypocrisy.

This is 2020 version of an orwellian state.

[Back2RFK]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am digging this thread up, because ultimately Schumer, Schiff, McConnell and Trump all live in a world of hypocrisy, they feed their media stooges their same hypocritical crap, and in the end our population divides itself over the politically motivated hypocrisy.

This is 2020 version of an orwellian state.

This country was divided politically way before Trump, and in my opinion its because our Government has become way too big.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Back2RFK

This country was divided politically way before Trump, and in my opinion its because our Government has become way too big.

I think it is because for over 80 years we have been seeing the divergence of two political core beliefs. And every economic downturn has widened that gap, until the 2008 great recession ultimately created a span so wide that it may be irreconcilable.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Back2RFK

This country was divided politically way before Trump, and in my opinion its because our Government has become way too big.

You don’t see a deeper divide since Trump came along? 90% of his base never used the word liberal before him, and still have no idea what one is.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I think it is because for over 80 years we have been seeing the divergence of two political core beliefs. And every economic downturn has widened that gap, until the 2008 great recession ultimately created a span so wide that it may be irreconcilable.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

I don't think it's as political as you think ,I think it economics! The more the middle working class gets dumped on the more political parties scream at each other yet nether do anything and has been going on for a good 60/70 years.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You don’t see a deeper divide since Trump came along? 90% of his base never used the word liberal before him, and still have no idea what one is.

Yes .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I don't think it's as political as you think ,I think it economics! The more the middle working class gets dumped on the more political parties scream at each other yet nether do anything and has been going on for a good 60/70 years.

I do not disagree with that at all.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk

[SunnySide]

The hypocrisy of Matthew Gaetz.



^^^ Gaetz March 4, 2020

Gaetz was spotted riding on Air Force One on Monday as he learned the news. White House officials said when Gaetz learned he was in proximity to the man with coronavirus at CPAC, he sat by himself in a section of the president's plane.

^^^ Gaetz March 9, 2020

.... that escalated bigly.

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

The hypocrisy of Matthew Gaetz.



^^^ Gaetz March 4, 2020

Gaetz was spotted riding on Air Force One on Monday as he learned the news. White House officials said when Gaetz learned he was in proximity to the man with coronavirus at CPAC, he sat by himself in a section of the president's plane.

^^^ Gaetz March 9, 2020

.... that escalated bigly.

I have personally known a couple germophobes and worked with a few others.
One guy was a trip, when I handed him his paycheck on Friday he would always take it with a hand wrapped in a shop rag. He would spray all his tools with disinfectant before putting them away. The guy was out sick just as much as everyone else. Same with all the others, all their precautions did not seem to matter much.

[SunnySide]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

I have personally known a couple germophobes and worked with a few others.
One guy was a trip, when I handed him his paycheck on Friday he would always take it with a hand wrapped in a shop rag. He would spray all his tools with disinfectant before putting them away. The guy was out sick just as much as everyone else. Same with all the others, all their precautions did not seem to matter much.

He wasnt doing it for that .... he was doing it to mock and belittle the response to the Coronavirus as being overblown and out of proportion.

[Back2RFK]

Originally Posted by punch it in

You don’t see a deeper divide since Trump came along? 90% of his base never used the word liberal before him, and still have no idea what one is.

What are you talking about. 90% of his base probably used the term "Liberal" weekly and some daily. Nothing is wrong being called a liberal unless your liberal and do not believe in what you say you stand for.