Redskins Injuries and What can be done

[Schneed10]

Suggesting he wont be ready for 2019 seems ignorant. He was hurt in mid August, if all goes well with recovery the typical timetable is 9 months. He had a setback that set him back for 2 months. That puts him back at the 11 month mark, which would be ready by July.

I don't understand where people get the idea that he might not be ready for 2019 season. That's speculation based on no medical facts.

Guice himself told Copeland of the WaPo that he still expects to be ready for the season. Dumb.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Suggesting he wont be ready for 2019 seems ignorant. He was hurt in mid August, if all goes well with recovery the typical timetable is 9 months. He had a setback that set him back for 2 months. That puts him back at the 11 month mark, which would be ready by July.

I don't understand where people get the idea that he might not be ready for 2019 season. That's speculation based on no medical facts.

Guice himself told Copeland of the WaPo that he still expects to be ready for the season. Dumb.

I don't know about whether he will be ready or not for the season. Is it strange for 2 players to come off from surgery and experience infections that result in multiple additional surgeries?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

I don't know about whether he will be ready or not for the season. Is it strange for 2 players to come off from surgery and experience infections that result in multiple additional surgeries?

In the case of Alex's compound fracture, no that's not strange to come down with an infection. When the bone punctures the skin you introduce the possibility the bone is exposed to bacteria on the surface of the skin, so the risk of infection is far greater than if the bone hadn't punctured the skin.

As for Guice, an infection post surgery for an ACL can happen but it's something the patient, the hospital, and the physician have control over. The team has no control over it. Following surgery the patient has to follow the physician's instructions with regards to keeping the wound cleaned and dressed properly. If Guice was non-compliant with those instructions (we have no idea if he was) then it increases the risk of infection. As for the hospital, nurses, and physicians, hospital-acquired infections are a serious problem. Guice could have acquired the infection while he was in the care of the hospital. It happens, and Medicare will ding the hospital when it happens, providing less reimbursement for the covered patient in question. But it still should not happen often.

Either way, neither Smith's nor Guice's infections are at all within the team's control. Smith's occurred either while he was lying on the field with the leg, or while he was in the hospital. Guice's occurred either while he was in the hospital or while he was at home recovering, prior to his rehab beginning. Neither occurred under the team's watch.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

In the case of Alex's compound fracture, no that's not strange to come down with an infection. When the bone punctures the skin you introduce the possibility the bone is exposed to bacteria on the surface of the skin, so the risk of infection is far greater than if the bone hadn't punctured the skin.

As for Guice, an infection post surgery for an ACL can happen but it's something the patient, the hospital, and the physician have control over. The team has no control over it. Following surgery the patient has to follow the physician's instructions with regards to keeping the wound cleaned and dressed properly. If Guice was non-compliant with those instructions (we have no idea if he was) then it increases the risk of infection. As for the hospital, nurses, and physicians, hospital-acquired infections are a serious problem. Guice could have acquired the infection while he was in the care of the hospital. It happens, and Medicare will ding the hospital when it happens, providing less reimbursement for the covered patient in question. But it still should not happen often.

Either way, neither Smith's nor Guice's infections are at all within the team's control. Smith's occurred either while he was lying on the field with the leg, or while he was in the hospital. Guice's occurred either while he was in the hospital or while he was at home recovering, prior to his rehab beginning. Neither occurred under the team's watch.

thanks, I knew this topic would kinda be in your wheelhouse.

[Buffalo Bob]

Who knows if it is one factor or numerous factors. Obviously some injuries are unavoidable, but when you are constantly among the league leaders in lost game injuries for an extended period of time it is more than just coincidence.

A lot of guys hate stretching, but not being properly stretched and warmed-up before practice or games can lead to increased injuries. It is a lot easier to get injured if you are fatigued, increased injuries could be a conditioning issue, or not getting players rest when needed. It could be a result of too much or too little contact in practice. Also it could boil down to not managing small injuries properly and letting them turn into big ones. Last but not least the team could be composed of too many players that have a history of being constantly injured.

I just wonder what are the Redskins doing different than the teams that are on the healthy end of the spectrum?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Buffalo Bob

Who knows if it is one factor or numerous factors. Obviously some injuries are unavoidable, but when you are constantly among the league leaders in lost game injuries for an extended period of time it is more than just coincidence.

A lot of guys hate stretching, but not being properly stretched and warmed-up before practice or games can lead to increased injuries. It is a lot easier to get injured if you are fatigued, increased injuries could be a conditioning issue, or not getting players rest when needed. It could be a result of too much or too little contact in practice. Also it could boil down to not managing small injuries properly and letting them turn into big ones. Last but not least the team could be composed of too many players that have a history of being constantly injured.

I just wonder what are the Redskins doing different than the teams that are on the healthy end of the spectrum?

I have thought this myself. I think this could explain some of the soft tissue stuff. It definitely can't explain Alex's leg or Guice's ACL. Alex was a freak accident and Guice's knee was already weak from being hyperextended while in college.

But conditioning and flexibility can help stave off injury with soft tissue stuff. I can't say for sure the Redskins are lacking in this area but we tear pecs, hurt hamstrings, hurt obliques, hurt calfs, all that kind of stuff, we seem to have that market cornered. I do question whether there is too much focus at Redskins Park on brute strength and not enough on flexibility.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I have thought this myself. I think this could explain some of the soft tissue stuff. It definitely can't explain Alex's leg or Guice's ACL. Alex was a freak accident and Guice's knee was already weak from being hyperextended while in college.

But conditioning and flexibility can help stave off injury with soft tissue stuff. I can't say for sure the Redskins are lacking in this area but we tear pecs, hurt hamstrings, hurt obliques, hurt calfs, all that kind of stuff, we seem to have that market cornered. I do question whether there is too much focus at Redskins Park on brute strength and not enough on flexibility.

If that is the focus then a likely cause is dehydration the inability for muscle to retain water in the first place but also dehydration is the leading factor in sports related injuries. Regardless that goes back to conditioning.