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Old 10-02-2018, 09:37 AM   #1
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Schumer: Trump 'deserves praise' for work to fix Mexico, Canada trade deal

Amazon is raising it's minimum wage to $15 - with no governmental regulations required.

On the economy President Trump's approval rating is above 50% across the spectrum of polls notably Reuters has it as 51% approve 40% disapprove for the week of 9-19 to 9-25. And I would think that would rise after the USMCA trade agreement news.
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:05 AM   #2
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back to the winning,
Schumer: Trump 'deserves praise' for work to fix Mexico, Canada trade deal

Amazon is raising it's minimum wage to $15 - with no governmental regulations required.

On the economy President Trump's approval rating is above 50% across the spectrum of polls notably Reuters has it as 51% approve 40% disapprove for the week of 9-19 to 9-25. And I would think that would rise after the USMCA trade agreement news.
Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?
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Old 10-02-2018, 10:21 AM   #3
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Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?
It's likely optics.
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Does this have more to do with the optics of Bezos earning millions a day while his workers piss in bottles, or is it because of some selfless act of gov't that allows Amazon to be so generous?
The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren...-minimum-wage/

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Old 10-02-2018, 01:03 PM   #5
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The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren...-minimum-wage/
Someone might be criticizing it, but it ain't me. I worked retail for 2 years coming out of high school, have nothing but sympathy for those Amazon workers that literally don't even get time to take a bathroom break.

Bezos has had a lot of criticism coming his way for how much he's earning an hour while his workers need food stamps, this is a good step in the right direction. Yearly cost-of-living raises for his workers would look good too.
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Old 10-02-2018, 03:52 PM   #6
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The irony is this...if the government mandated it, you would love it. Since corporate America is doing it...its criticized.

This is serious competition component to the 15 raise....but lets not talk about it. Wages are rising and there have been articles about the holiday job hiring frenzy where higher pay this season was gonna be an issue for demand of those jobs.

Warren Buffet knows what he is talking about and often the liberals will highlight he opinions. But its funny when the bias media doesn't push one of his strong view points on the economy: http://fortune.com/2015/05/22/warren...-minimum-wage/
You just love to make this shit up don't you chico? Find a post from anyone that says a company willing to pay it's workers more is wrong???

Funny you quote Warren Buffet yet when it came to the Tax cuts and he was speaking out about how he pays less in taxes than his secretary how much screaming did you do then?I'll remind you none.


Lets just read more about what Warren thinks.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...ax-reform.aspx

But don't expect the tax cuts to benefit everyday Americans
While Buffett acknowledges that Berkshire's bottom line will be helped by the new tax law, and he predicts the stock market is likely to rise, that doesn't mean he thinks the GOP's tax-reform bill is in the best interest of the American public.

Buffett recently wrote an article for Time magazine in which he explained why trickle-down economics doesn't really work.

The whole idea behind the GOP's tax-reform bill is that the massive tax cut for corporations will "trickle down" to the American public in the form of more jobs and higher wages. And the early indications are that this is somewhat true -- several high-profile companies announced bonuses for their workers or higher minimum wages in the wake of the legislation.

However, Buffett points out that historically, trickle-down economics hasn't had the promised effect. He gives the example of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans. Between the first version of the list in 1982 and today, the wealth of the top 400 has multiplied by a factor of 29, from $93 billion to $2.7 trillion. Buffett says that at the same time, "many hardworking citizens remained stuck on an economic treadmill." He added: "During this period, the tsunami of wealth didn't trickle down. It surged upward."
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Old 10-02-2018, 04:21 PM   #7
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You just love to make this shit up don't you chico? Find a post from anyone that says a company willing to pay it's workers more is wrong???

Funny you quote Warren Buffet yet when it came to the Tax cuts and he was speaking out about how he pays less in taxes than his secretary how much screaming did you do then?I'll remind you none.


Lets just read more about what Warren thinks.

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/...ax-reform.aspx

But don't expect the tax cuts to benefit everyday Americans
While Buffett acknowledges that Berkshire's bottom line will be helped by the new tax law, and he predicts the stock market is likely to rise, that doesn't mean he thinks the GOP's tax-reform bill is in the best interest of the American public.

Buffett recently wrote an article for Time magazine in which he explained why trickle-down economics doesn't really work.

The whole idea behind the GOP's tax-reform bill is that the massive tax cut for corporations will "trickle down" to the American public in the form of more jobs and higher wages. And the early indications are that this is somewhat true -- several high-profile companies announced bonuses for their workers or higher minimum wages in the wake of the legislation.

However, Buffett points out that historically, trickle-down economics hasn't had the promised effect. He gives the example of the Forbes 400 list of the richest Americans. Between the first version of the list in 1982 and today, the wealth of the top 400 has multiplied by a factor of 29, from $93 billion to $2.7 trillion. Buffett says that at the same time, "many hardworking citizens remained stuck on an economic treadmill." He added: "During this period, the tsunami of wealth didn't trickle down. It surged upward."
https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...son/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a...s-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/targ...ay-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.
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Old 10-02-2018, 04:37 PM   #8
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https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...son/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a...s-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/targ...ay-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.
Yeah but we're borrowing at an absurd rate to make it happen, which eventually has consequences.

Trump's tax plan dropped tax rates, so parts of the public are enjoying that significant change, but the federal government has not reduced spending in concert. The deficit has grown significantly larger.

It's the same effect as a stimulus. Obama's was an injection fed by quantitative easing, ours is an injection of Chinese cash buying up more of our debt. It will eventually impact inflation rates and the strength of our currency in a negative way.
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Yeah but we're borrowing at an absurd rate to make it happen, which eventually has consequences.

Trump's tax plan dropped tax rates, so parts of the public are enjoying that significant change, but the federal government has not reduced spending in concert. The deficit has grown significantly larger.

It's the same effect as a stimulus. Obama's was an injection fed by quantitative easing, ours is an injection of Chinese cash buying up more of our debt. It will eventually impact inflation rates and the strength of our currency in a negative way.
I agree, and a side note on this, people may have started noticing the fed raising rates, and while individuals may feel a little of that, guess what happens when the federally borrowed money starts having to pay higher rates, it's not a good thing.

I do think the difference on the stimulus vs solid gdp growth, is a lot of the stimulus was borrowed money that doesn't increase the tax base. In sound GDP growth, tax revenues rise as a result. BUT your point is right it's not enough, and Congress needs to stop living in tax and spend environment.
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https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...son/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a...s-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/targ...ay-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.
That started with Obama ,don't forget that.
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Old 10-03-2018, 09:23 AM   #11
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That started with Obama ,don't forget that.
ha...its literally hilarious you don't understand. True if you talking the deficit chunks

But Obama at anytime could have enacted measures to get the economy going. Dodd-Frank, Fed Regulatory laws, Tax policy, etc....get into the weeds G1 and you can find the answers.

We agree to disagree
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https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/...son/1491329535

https://q13fox.com/2018/09/20/need-a...s-the-country/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/13/targ...ay-season.html


Read the news...higher, competitive demand for holiday worker...higher wages, incentives, perks, employee discount, ETC.

Amazon is getting out in front, trying to keep its workforce...this was a competitive WAGE HIKE due to demand. This was not some bullshit handout...this is business and a strategy by Amazon to retain workforce and compete other employers who are direct competition

This is what happens in a great economy.



Pay attention chico............


https://www.yahoo.com/finance/video/...130000919.html
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