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View Poll Results: Do you approve of the trade for Alex Smith? | |||
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50 | 58.14% |
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The Starter
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Charlotte NC
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Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
I haven't posted in years....so its nice to be back.
I don't have a problem with Alex Smith the QB. I'm sure he will be as productive as Kirk (or Kurt depending on who is talking). My issue is this - $71 millions guaranteed to a guy that is 34 years old. this is so the OLD redskins way of over paying for aging guys. And also giving up a promising young corner (remember Champ?). And absolutely no attempt to at least dip a toe in the negotiating pool with Kirk. I am guessing $70+ million guaranteed last year would have gotten close or at least given Kirk the feeling that this may be the right place to be. But as usual, Bruce Allen craps on this because he is out to show he is the man in charge. |
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Special Teams
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: garfield new jersey
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Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
question for the board ,do we get the extra pick pick back this year or next when cousins signs somewhere else ?
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Join Date: Oct 2009
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Re: Redskins trade for Alex Smith
Forget what TV guy it was that said it, but I heard only about 17 million of it was guaranteed at time of signing. Somebody on there said essentially it was a two year deal, with the Skins having a way out at year three if need be. Of course we aren't ever going to know until pen gets put to paper and the details are disclosed. It's all speculation until that point
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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In reality it's probably structured such that: - The $17M due in 2018 was fully guaranteed - All money in 2019 and 2020 associated with the new contract was fully guaranteed. Let's assume it's $23M each season. - There was probably a signing bonus. If you add up the above two bullets, that's $63M guaranteed. So if there was a $8M signing bonus, that gets you to $71M. That means we've guaranteed him through 2020 (3 years), and we could get away from him after that if we wanted, without cap implications. I can't know that this is the way it looks, but it's highly likely given Schaffer's MO with bigger contracts.
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Using that plus Overthecap's number it would mean we have about 34M of cap space before any cuts or moves. That is a good number to let us make some competitive FA signings and our own resignings. What would be the FT number for Zach Brown, does anyone know? Not that I want to go back to FTs ... |
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A Dude
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On the FT value for Zach Brown, I don't know the number for 2018, but I know you're not going to like it. In 2017 the tag value for a "linebacker" was $14.5M. The NFL does not distinguish between MLBs and edge rushing LBs in a 3-4 scheme, they're all lumped in together. So Von Miller's astronomical figure counts towards the average in figuring out what a linebacker is worth. So we'd never want to tag Zach. It wouldn't even be worth it. So that's probably why there seems to be promising movement on the Zach Brown talks, see here: Zach Brown Teases Possible Return to Redskins « CBS DC
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It was reported the full 71 million was guaranteed for injury only that they could cut him prior to that for performance reasons.
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