Who is more important, Brunell or Moss?

BrudLee · 10-28-2005, 09:07 AM

This is a question that is being answered in Green Bay right now.

Who is the most valuable player there? Brett Favre, no question. How valuable is he with no one to throw to? Not very. He'll still get a ton of yards, he'll still throw for touchdowns, but he's a gun without ammunition right now.

illdefined · 10-28-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jamf

these are different brunells...

who really knows, maybe if Brunell had some healthy, fast receivers who could actually catch and run last year, he would have put up the same numbers he's putting up this year. i'm not putting down Brunell (this year).

point is, the presence of Moss is the most significant *change* to the offense this year. he's changed the entire gameplan and offensive character of this team, because he gets real separation downfield and forces the defense to stop looking at Portis. we didn't have that kind of threat last year, and no QB could do anything about that.

Schneed10 · 10-28-2005, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by heybigstar

1 good QB, 1 good WR, they are synergy: 1+1 = 11-5

Great post. I agree. They'd both be missed equally.

illdefined · 10-28-2005, 09:36 AM

also consider Moss has caught the vast majority of passes this year, the other WRs Patten, Thrash and Jacobs have only caught a handful of balls here and there. it's mostly all Moss and the the H-Backs (Cooley & "Air" Sellers), who we also had last year

RDSKNZ · 10-28-2005, 09:37 AM

If I had to pick I would say Brunell because I think with the other WR and the RB I think we could survive without Moss. Let's just hope nothing happens to either of them and all this discussion is a moot point.

amorentz · 10-28-2005, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by heybigstar

1 good QB, 1 good WR, they are synergy: 1+1 = 11-5

I totally agree...I think that either one has difficulty without the other. Sometimes QBs and WRs just have that certain...je ne sais quois shall I say? These two just get each other right now in a very 1+1=100 way and I think both are equally important to the Skins.

TheMalcolmConnection · 10-28-2005, 09:49 AM

The alpha and the omega.

MTK · 10-28-2005, 09:51 AM

A quality offense always starts first with the OL and second with the QB.

If you have those two things, you can usually be an effective offense even with average WRs. Look at the Eagles prior to Owens. A good offense, not great, but obviously Owens was the icing on the cake especially last year.

Take McNabb out of there and you have an entirely different offense. They can survive without TO though.

Moss is our icing on the cake right now, but Brunell is the driving force of the offense.

BDBohnzie · 10-28-2005, 09:55 AM

Who's more important? Jon Jansen. That offensive line is totally different when he's in the lineup, which allows Brunell to throw to Moss.

But, between those 2, neither are more important over the other. There would be significant loss if either one goes down. No Moss, and the downfield passing game struggles. No Brunell and you have a reasonable backup, but no long term answer for sure.

firstdown · 10-28-2005, 10:02 AM

Moss last year just average, Brunell last year just terrible. It's a toss up. Ramsey might, and thats a big might have the stuff to carry the team but I think we would lose those close games Brunell is winning. If Moss went down our other WR's might be able to carry the load but we lose the some close games that Moss would have won for us. Our offense is much better this year so if either went down it would be much easier to replace one of them. Someone made the comment that the Eagles could survive without TO but with as much as they are throwing the ball they maybe dead in the water without him.

bertoskins · 10-28-2005, 08:43 PM

moss is different and can adjust of a different passers

sniks · 10-28-2005, 08:55 PM

Why do we care? Lets just enjoy this edition of the Redskins!!!!!!!! Its been along time since we have been this excited about them.

Hail to the redskins!!!!!!!

SUNRA · 10-28-2005, 09:45 PM

This thread is a waste of time. The question should be who is the most important duo in the NFL?

Brunell- Moss

Palmer-Johnson

Delhomme-Smith

McNabb-Owens

Bulger-Holt

Let's not waste time on frivilous discussions that don't build a positive dialogue between us as we move a step closer in restoring our dominance.

That Guy · 10-28-2005, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

This thread is a waste of time. The question should be who is the most important duo in the NFL?

Brunell- Moss

Palmer-Johnson

Delhomme-Smith

McNabb-Owens

Bulger-Holt

Let's not waste time on frivilous discussions that don't build a positive dialogue between us as we move a step closer in restoring our dominance.

that's tough... either B-M or M-O, but mcnabb is hurt and TO is a jackass, so i'd have to take the homer vote on this one.

wheeler · 10-29-2005, 01:42 AM

im going with moss ,he's the spark this team has needed....and give gibbs some credit if brunell went down he'd figure out a way to get ramsey the protection and cure him of his happy feet.....stop looking at receivers and look at coverages instead..............moss is the man we're gonna kick some giant ass sunday.............:smashfrea

10-28-2005, 09:07 AM	#16
BrudLee Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE Posts: 3,494	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? This is a question that is being answered in Green Bay right now. Who is the most valuable player there? Brett Favre, no question. How valuable is he with no one to throw to? Not very. He'll still get a ton of yards, he'll still throw for touchdowns, but he's a gun without ammunition right now. __________________ There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.

10-28-2005, 09:36 AM	#19
illdefined Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: nyc Age: 49 Posts: 2,631	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? also consider Moss has caught the vast majority of passes this year, the other WRs Patten, Thrash and Jacobs have only caught a handful of balls here and there. it's mostly all Moss and the the H-Backs (Cooley & "Air" Sellers), who we also had last year __________________ a fan. not a cheerleader.

10-28-2005, 09:37 AM	#20
RDSKNZ Camp Scrub Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hickory, North Carolina Age: 52 Posts: 10	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? If I had to pick I would say Brunell because I think with the other WR and the RB I think we could survive without Moss. Let's just hope nothing happens to either of them and all this discussion is a moot point.

10-28-2005, 09:49 AM	#22
TheMalcolmConnection I like big (_\|_)s. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Charlottesville, Virginia Age: 43 Posts: 19,259	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? The alpha and the omega. __________________ Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.

10-28-2005, 09:51 AM	#23
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,748	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? A quality offense always starts first with the OL and second with the QB. If you have those two things, you can usually be an effective offense even with average WRs. Look at the Eagles prior to Owens. A good offense, not great, but obviously Owens was the icing on the cake especially last year. Take McNabb out of there and you have an entirely different offense. They can survive without TO though. Moss is our icing on the cake right now, but Brunell is the driving force of the offense.

10-28-2005, 09:55 AM	#24
BDBohnzie Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Frederick, MD Age: 46 Posts: 4,628	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? Who's more important? Jon Jansen. That offensive line is totally different when he's in the lineup, which allows Brunell to throw to Moss. But, between those 2, neither are more important over the other. There would be significant loss if either one goes down. No Moss, and the downfield passing game struggles. No Brunell and you have a reasonable backup, but no long term answer for sure. __________________ Bad Things man, I mean bad things... “WE TOOK HIM IN THE SIXTH ROUND SO WE'RE NOT SMART EITHER.” - Shanny on what the Skins saw in Alfred Morris

10-28-2005, 10:02 AM	#25
firstdown Living Legend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: chesapeake, va Age: 61 Posts: 15,817	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? Moss last year just average, Brunell last year just terrible. It's a toss up. Ramsey might, and thats a big might have the stuff to carry the team but I think we would lose those close games Brunell is winning. If Moss went down our other WR's might be able to carry the load but we lose the some close games that Moss would have won for us. Our offense is much better this year so if either went down it would be much easier to replace one of them. Someone made the comment that the Eagles could survive without TO but with as much as they are throwing the ball they maybe dead in the water without him.

10-28-2005, 08:43 PM	#26
bertoskins Special Teams Join Date: May 2004 Location: philippines Age: 51 Posts: 184	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? moss is different and can adjust of a different passers

10-28-2005, 08:55 PM	#27
sniks Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: CT. Age: 65 Posts: 97	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? Why do we care? Lets just enjoy this edition of the Redskins!!!!!!!! Its been along time since we have been this excited about them. Hail to the redskins!!!!!!!

10-28-2005, 09:45 PM	#28
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? This thread is a waste of time. The question should be who is the most important duo in the NFL? Brunell- Moss Palmer-Johnson Delhomme-Smith McNabb-Owens Bulger-Holt Let's not waste time on frivilous discussions that don't build a positive dialogue between us as we move a step closer in restoring our dominance. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

10-29-2005, 01:42 AM	#30
wheeler Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: PHX,AZ ,HOT AS HE#@LL Age: 64 Posts: 136	Re: Who is more important, Brunell or Moss? im going with moss ,he's the spark this team has needed....and give gibbs some credit if brunell went down he'd figure out a way to get ramsey the protection and cure him of his happy feet.....stop looking at receivers and look at coverages instead..............moss is the man we're gonna kick some giant ass sunday.............:smashfrea

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