Brexit

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Anybody following this? Anybody care?

Its fascinating...I didn't think it would happen. I don't know if I agree or not, but I think Chuck Todd summed it up well, the angry middle class isn't just limited to the United States (Trump, Bernie) this is a phenomenon across western democracies.

Working class, middle class are generally tired of paying for everyone else. Benefits and cuts in public and private sectors but then you got to pay benefits to non citizens or folks who just sit on their ass. Rich get richer too. The media will use the emotional, impulse words like racist, xenophobia, anti-this and that, but that explains nothing. This goes way, way beyond these simple, blanket terms that are lightly tossed these days.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Its fascinating...I didn't think it would happen. I don't know if I agree or not, but I think Chuck Todd summed it up well, the angry middle class isn't just limited to the United States (Trump, Bernie) this is a phenomenon across western democracies.

Working class, middle class are generally tired of paying for everyone else. Benefits and cuts in public and private sectors but then you got to pay benefits to non citizens or folks who just sit on their ass. Rich get richer too. The media will use the emotional, impulse words like racist, xenophobia, anti-this and that, but that explains nothing. This goes way, way beyond these simple, blanket terms that are lightly tossed these days.

Yes, been watching it unfold.....
And, it's about time...
How's that go...Taxation without representation? Nice
AND, is it not the media's job to lie to us?

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Its fascinating...I didn't think it would happen. I don't know if I agree or not, but I think Chuck Todd summed it up well, the angry middle class isn't just limited to the United States (Trump, Bernie) this is a phenomenon across western democracies.

Working class, middle class are generally tired of paying for everyone else. Benefits and cuts in public and private sectors but then you got to pay benefits to non citizens or folks who just sit on their ass. Rich get richer too. The media will use the emotional, impulse words like racist, xenophobia, anti-this and that, but that explains nothing. This goes way, way beyond these simple, blanket terms that are lightly tossed these days.

Most of the economic concern, I think, comes from the fact that the UK now has to renegotiate numerous trade agreements that may or may not be similar to the those they had under the EU. Because the old trade agreements were known entities, investors could generally understand the risks / benefits. Now, no one is quite sure how the new trade agreements will affect profits across national borders. Ultimately, I think it will be a benefit to the UK middle class, but, in the short term, likely to create a lot of financial upheaval throughout the global economy given London banking's prominence.

As to the bolded part, I think you hit the nail on the head. So much of the rhetoric today coming from the left is meant to stifle dissent - "Agree with us or you're a stupid, chauvinistic, racist." The right's rhetoric, on the other hand, isn't so much meant to stifle dissent as to say they just don't care about it. -"Murica! - love it, or leave it." It's a subtle distinction, but important ... just look at the UK. It's funny that, as is happening here through Clinton, the traditional left is joined forces with the London Banker interests to push to remain in the EU.

Vote Libertarian. lol