Cousins has arrived

htownskinfan · 01-12-2016, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Yes the whole team was off yesterday, BUT COUSINS THROWS WERE BLAH BLAH BLAH.
Dont try n backtrack now. That there is a fine line you're walking if you say you never blamed Cousins, never thought that even?!? Lol. Come on man.
Edit: i dont really care, but like Matty said - the defense got absolutely torched Sunday and we are talking about the QB?!? The QB who didnt have a terrible game but was a little bit off?!? You are completely questioning KC at this point and good for you and your opinion. This is America.
However,like I have said to others,thank God you are not involved with the decision making process of this team. Lol.

If I was involved with the decision-making this team would be a lot better off

It may have looked like from my post that I was blaming Kirk for the loss but that is not how I feel. I am not backtracking I never meant that he was the reason for the loss
I think my Brian Hoyer comment got you guys all in a hissy Yes I said it, was it an over exaggeration, yes it was. I admitted that, and I would like it stricken from the record.

30gut · 01-12-2016, 09:28 AM

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-down-cousins/

Washington

–It certainly wasn’t a pretty day from Kirk Cousins (-4.7). His accuracy down the field was night and day from the quarterback we’ve seen the past few weeks. On passes targeted between 10-20 yards down the field, Cousins was only 2-of-10 passing for 36 yards. Green Bay forced check down after check down from Cousins and continually made the play. 17 of Cousins 29 completions came between the numbers and within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

JoeRedskin · 01-12-2016, 09:39 AM

KC did not have a good day.
The OLine did not have a good day.
The defense, as a whole, did not have a good day.

So ... a team - led by a QB with no starting play off experience, that had no run game, and had a questionable defense - lost to a coach and team that has won the SB, been a consistent play off team, and was led by last year's league MVP.

It happens.

punch it in · 01-12-2016, 09:40 AM

Was not his sharpest of games by any means. But it was good enough for the win had the defense not played like a sieve. Couple that with a terrible attempt by Djax at getting the damn ball in the endzone and a missed extra point - and you have a loss. Those 5 points early would have changed some things. I also think those numbers were skewed by the fact that he was forced to go long alot and try to play catch up later in the game. The Pack obviously was not in the slightest bit afraid of our run game either. The bottom line is that with half of a better effort by our defense and run game Cousins played well enough for us to beat a very experienced playoff team.

JoeRedskin · 01-12-2016, 09:46 AM

As I have said consistently, even when doubting his long-term viability as a starter, KC is the guy next year. Based on his last 10 regular season games, he convinced me he is the guy for the next several years.

Over the year, KC has shown growth and improvement. I fully expect that he will do so again as we become regular playoff participants. It's a different game when moving from back-up to regular starter and, after some fits and starts, KC adapted just fine. Similarly, it's a different game in the Post Season where there are no gimme's, and KC will be learn that one as well.

Chico23231 · 01-12-2016, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-down-cousins/

Washington

–It certainly wasn’t a pretty day from Kirk Cousins (-4.7). His accuracy down the field was night and day from the quarterback we’ve seen the past few weeks. On passes targeted between 10-20 yards down the field, Cousins was only 2-of-10 passing for 36 yards. Green Bay forced check down after check down from Cousins and continually made the play. 17 of Cousins 29 completions came between the numbers and within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

Gotta remember, Green Bay pass defense has been great all year. Capers secondary looks have confused good QB and their pass rush is decent. You counter that pounding the ball...

over the mountain · 01-12-2016, 10:09 AM

i think we were out coached on both sides of the ball and our guys werent prepared for what they saw. coaches are pretty green as well.

i really look forward to hearing and reading cooley/bullock and cos. film breakdown bc from the TV view you just couldnt see what was happening down field but it looked like kirk just couldnt find any open receivers sans Reed in the middle who kirk seemed to force the ball to at times.

Reed - 9 catches 17 targets
garcon - 5 catches 8 targets
jackson - 2 catches 5 targets

my opinion - we got out coached and tried to force our offensive approach instead of game planning to attack the GB weaknesses.

MTK · 01-12-2016, 10:23 AM

I think we need to chill on the contract situation. Yes he's going to be looking for a nice deal, but to be paid like a top 5 guy you need a more complete resume. The team does have some leverage to bring to the negotiating table. So let's not assume he's going to take us to the cleaners. I think both sides want it to work and will find some common ground.

punch it in · 01-12-2016, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I think we need to chill on the contract situation. Yes he's going to be looking for a nice deal, but to be paid like a top 5 guy you need a more complete resume. The team does have some leverage to bring to the negotiating table. So let's not assume he's going to take us to the cleaners. I think both sides want it to work and will find some common ground.

He deserves top 15 money rite now due to the limited resume. Though i do believe he is a top 10 guy rite now.
Edit: Also if he gets a better offer somewhere and we do not tag him he should take it. I would hold nothing against him. Its a career for him. We would all leave our current employer rite now for a similar job and a substantial pay raise. Just because nobody roots for me at work doesnt really matter. Lol

skinsfaninok · 01-12-2016, 11:22 AM

If kirk wasn't on the redskins every single skins fan would be saying "I wish we had kirk cousins that guy is good"

punch it in · 01-12-2016, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If kirk wasn't on the redskins every single skins fan would be saying "I wish we had kirk cousins that guy is good"

Oh he would be the hottest thing since the Macarena!
It's understandable that after our laundry list of qb's who did not pan out over the last 20 years that folks are hesitant but my goodness what else can he show us in this short time?

mooby · 01-12-2016, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

I think we need to chill on the contract situation. Yes he's going to be looking for a nice deal, but to be paid like a top 5 guy you need a more complete resume. The team does have some leverage to bring to the negotiating table. So let's not assume he's going to take us to the cleaners. I think both sides want it to work and will find some common ground.

I think it depends on the agent. If he's got a flashy guy like Drew Rosenhaus it might be more difficult than somebody who's more willing to work with the team.

30gut · 01-12-2016, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chico23231

Gotta remember, Green Bay pass defense has been great all year. Capers secondary looks have confused good QB and their pass rush is decent. You counter that pounding the ball...

Trust me I hear ya, preaching to the preacher on that note.

30gut · 01-12-2016, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Was not his sharpest of games by any means. But it was good enough for the win had the defense not played like a sieve. Couple that with a terrible attempt by Djax at getting the damn ball in the endzone and a missed extra point - and you have a loss. Those 5 points early would have changed some things....The bottom line is that with half of a better effort by our defense and run game Cousins played well enough for us to beat a very experienced playoff team.

I agree with some of this. However; good enough to win a regular season game is different from a playoff game. Lets not forget that delay of game also played a role in not scoring on the goaline. And Alf was churning out 4.5 yards a clip. Its not all on Kirk but a bad game is a bad game. Shrugs.

Brody81 · 01-12-2016, 05:46 PM

Was anyone listening to the sports fix this afternoon? They were asking people if they thought Griffin was going to come back to haunt the Skins.. It was amazing how racial the discussion turned. Not that I want to go down this road, but I just can't believe in 2016 so many people are so divided about 2 QB's because of race.

01-12-2016, 09:28 AM	#317
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Cousins has arrived https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-down-cousins/ Washington –It certainly wasn’t a pretty day from Kirk Cousins (-4.7). His accuracy down the field was night and day from the quarterback we’ve seen the past few weeks. On passes targeted between 10-20 yards down the field, Cousins was only 2-of-10 passing for 36 yards. Green Bay forced check down after check down from Cousins and continually made the play. 17 of Cousins 29 completions came between the numbers and within 10 yards of the line of scrimmage.

01-12-2016, 09:39 AM	#318
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Cousins has arrived KC did not have a good day. The OLine did not have a good day. The defense, as a whole, did not have a good day. So ... a team - led by a QB with no starting play off experience, that had no run game, and had a questionable defense - lost to a coach and team that has won the SB, been a consistent play off team, and was led by last year's league MVP. It happens. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-12-2016, 09:40 AM	#319
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,878	Re: Cousins has arrived Was not his sharpest of games by any means. But it was good enough for the win had the defense not played like a sieve. Couple that with a terrible attempt by Djax at getting the damn ball in the endzone and a missed extra point - and you have a loss. Those 5 points early would have changed some things. I also think those numbers were skewed by the fact that he was forced to go long alot and try to play catch up later in the game. The Pack obviously was not in the slightest bit afraid of our run game either. The bottom line is that with half of a better effort by our defense and run game Cousins played well enough for us to beat a very experienced playoff team.

01-12-2016, 09:46 AM	#320
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Cousins has arrived As I have said consistently, even when doubting his long-term viability as a starter, KC is the guy next year. Based on his last 10 regular season games, he convinced me he is the guy for the next several years. Over the year, KC has shown growth and improvement. I fully expect that he will do so again as we become regular playoff participants. It's a different game when moving from back-up to regular starter and, after some fits and starts, KC adapted just fine. Similarly, it's a different game in the Post Season where there are no gimme's, and KC will be learn that one as well. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-12-2016, 10:09 AM	#322
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Cousins has arrived i think we were out coached on both sides of the ball and our guys werent prepared for what they saw. coaches are pretty green as well. i really look forward to hearing and reading cooley/bullock and cos. film breakdown bc from the TV view you just couldnt see what was happening down field but it looked like kirk just couldnt find any open receivers sans Reed in the middle who kirk seemed to force the ball to at times. Reed - 9 catches 17 targets garcon - 5 catches 8 targets jackson - 2 catches 5 targets my opinion - we got out coached and tried to force our offensive approach instead of game planning to attack the GB weaknesses. __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

01-12-2016, 10:23 AM	#323
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,758	Cousins has arrived I think we need to chill on the contract situation. Yes he's going to be looking for a nice deal, but to be paid like a top 5 guy you need a more complete resume. The team does have some leverage to bring to the negotiating table. So let's not assume he's going to take us to the cleaners. I think both sides want it to work and will find some common ground. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

01-12-2016, 11:22 AM	#325
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Cousins has arrived If kirk wasn't on the redskins every single skins fan would be saying "I wish we had kirk cousins that guy is good" __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

01-12-2016, 05:46 PM	#330
Brody81 Impact Rookie Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: South Carolina Posts: 825	Re: Cousins has arrived Was anyone listening to the sports fix this afternoon? They were asking people if they thought Griffin was going to come back to haunt the Skins.. It was amazing how racial the discussion turned. Not that I want to go down this road, but I just can't believe in 2016 so many people are so divided about 2 QB's because of race.

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