Cousins has arrived

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Im wondering about Kerrigan. He is invisible too often. Feel like he gets a pass. Idk.
Love Preston Smith.

I don't feel like he was ever good enough to a primary pass rusher. If teams focus on him he tends to disappear. Needs to be more depth behind him and a better player on the other side.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by MTK

I wouldn't read too far into his comments. He knows this is the best spot for him. He doesn't seem like a chase the money kind of guy.

I would agree but I've heard ( on the radio) that he hasn't felt like he's been treated fairly by the organization. Maybe he was bitter that he had to compete for the #2 with McCoy, or maybe being benched last year, who knows. But I did hear that from one of the local sports talk stations that he's not exactly in love with team management. Perhaps that's all done with now that SM is here.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Every quarterback in the league is overpaid (see deals for Dalton, Flacco, and Tannehill), because teams don't want to have their QBs hit the FA market.

It's just part of doing business in the NFL. QB's are getting big money.

[MTK]

"I do feel believed in here," he said. "This organization, they put their necks on the line for me at the start of the season, and so that says a lot right there. We’ll go from there and see where things play out."

http://www.csnmidatlantic.com/redski...-believed-here

[jamf]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It's just part of doing business in the NFL. QB's are getting big money.

This is the scary part.
It would be great to do a one year deal but that's just not how it works.
A few months ago, I said KC would get a 60+ mill contract and most people laughed. Looks like we were all wrong. He's going for 80-100Mil and that's based on what other teams are willing to pay him.

Hopefully we get a good deal that will allow us to add talent so we can hopefully be relevant for the next 10 years.

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would agree but I've heard ( on the radio) that he hasn't felt like he's been treated fairly by the organization. Maybe he was bitter that he had to compete for the #2 with McCoy, or maybe being benched last year, who knows. But I did hear that from one of the local sports talk stations that he's not exactly in love with team management. Perhaps that's all done with now that SM is here.

He was #1 a fourth round pick.....and #2 a developmental project. The final three games of 2013 after Robert Griffin was shut down by Mike Shanahan he struggled....and he struggled mightily in 2014 after Griffin went down....what did he expect? There's one journeyman QB and the franchise QB ahead of him on the depth chart. And in 2015 he again struggled before he got hot....Cousins poor play determined his spot on the depth chart in 2014....

When he was named the starter for 2015 over Colt McCoy I was very surprised by that!

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by calia

I agree -- too much character to be a jerk in the negotiations, I would think.



Separately, I saw Randall Cobb's video clip saying that he wasn't trolling Kirk Cousins by saying "You like that" after the game -- he was really "channeling his inner Cousins" and responding as Kirk did to everyone doubting the Redskins by showing some fight because the same thing was happening to the Packers the last few weeks. Seemed totally classy and I came away impressed with the dude.

Who cares if he was or was not. They beat us fair and square and alot of people were doubting them. If we beat them and one of our guys did a discount double check I would be grinning from ear to ear.

[htownskinfan]

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.

I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.

My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern

COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!

If that doesnt concern you than......

Cousins like a lot of other really good qb's can put a team on his back and win when facing an average to below average team. Maybe with a run game and a defense he could beat the better teams too. Its a team sport and it makes perfect sense that one man might not be able to get it done alone. Hell alot of quarterbacks wouldnt be able to do half of what Cousins has done this year on this team. Next year after SM fixes the run game and the D you will see this "team" take the next step - which generally means beating the good teams. HTTR

Edit: the more i hear that stupid stat line the more aggravated i get. I mean I dont know how many tries KC has had against winning teams, but this team from 2013-14 couldn't beat freaking anyone. Ofcourse KC had a losing record against the good teams. This year we lost to some pretty damn good teams with winning records. The Pats game u can put on the damn wr's. The Panthers and Packers absolutely torched our D. Just a dumb stat. Dumb to lay it on KC. Not you personally of course but the media.

[NoCalHail]

Cousins has plenty of room to elevate his game, especially since he is about to get paid, but I'd hardly point his way when it comes to the biggest concerns from the game last night.

QB Pressure can make even the best look average. QB pressure made Brady look pedestrian in 2 Superbowls. I am not saying Cousins should never be expected to handle pressure, but when you get it consistently, on top of the fact that the running game is so awful that the the opposing defense doesn't even have to stay honest? Forget about it.

When it comes to the pass rush? I've said it for a few seasons now, we have been trying to get by with crossing our fingers that the sum of the parts will equal more than what each individual has to offer. Kerrigan is a B+ just like Orakpo was a B+ as well. Preston Smith has had a great rookie year, but so did the other two guys and but it didn't translate into them growing into elite pass rushers. Our pass rush has a couple Aldon Smith's but no A+ caliber Justin Smith who takes on a double team and still pushes the pocket backwards. You need someone along the D-line who is an A+ in order for the B+ players to be effective consistently.

[MTK]

One game shouldn't change the narrative. People need to chill out.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......

Not true at all, he was very good against the blitz this year.

Hoyer had a 15.9 QB rating on Sat... 15.9. Putting them in the same sentence is ridiculous.

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I agree with a lot of the posters on cousin's attitude doesnt reflect that he wants to be here.
I have been all in on Cousins but still have concerns.He had a terrible 4th qtr yesterday and looked rattled by the pressure.When he has a clean pocket he's very good,but pressure makes him Brian Hoyer.
My biggest concern is stat I just read today which is unbelievable and gives me pause for concern
COUSINS HAS NEVER BEATEN A TEAM WITH A WINNING RECORD!!
If that doesnt concern you than......

What that tells me is that this TEAM has a ways to go ..He had no time to throw in the fourth qtr.the packers were coming all out..now look at the time rogers had he was picking apart the skins .. to all you guys who really don't believe in Cousins ..what would you say next year if cousins is playing for some other team and we are back to square one. lucky for us the redskins have gotten smarter and that won't happen..i can't believe we finally find the franchise QB and STILL there are those who can't get on board. we got beat by arguably the BEST QB remaining in the playoffs..yes even over Brady. We were in the game into the 4th qtr.. my biggest complaint is the continuous Selfish play of DJAX ..he needs to go someplace else with that side show. he could have easily scored that TD and who knows what could have happened .that gave the packers life .

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by MTK

Not true at all, he was very good against the blitz this year.



Hoyer had a 15.9 QB rating on Sat... 15.9. Putting them in the same sentence is ridiculous.

Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Yeah you're right,I over exaggerated
But Cousins did not play well after the td drive in 3rd and the never beating a team with a winning record was surprising and concerning.
I know we have no choice now but to sign him and I want us to,but I do have fears that he will be a 1 hit wonder like RG3.

Stop talking like that it's no longer allowed here.