Cousins has arrived

CRedskinsRule · 01-04-2016, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by punch it in

Stop trying to steal Kirks thunder.....

So DJax' insane abilities has no bearing on his completion rate?

Sent from my S6 Edge

punch it in · 01-04-2016, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So DJax' insane abilities has no bearing on his completion rate?

Sent from my S6 Edge

Of course it does. Him and DJax work great together. Its a team sport. Both things I preach all the time. I was just being a wise-guy.
That being said, D-Jax has all of 30 receptions this year. Now Jordan Reed....he might be a better choice of a running mate.

Bucket · 01-04-2016, 11:42 PM

Another great little chart. Top 10 QB? I would say so

That Guy · 01-05-2016, 07:59 AM

remember when 4,000 yards for a QB would put you in the top 3 or even top 1? things change i guess.

MTK · 01-05-2016, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

remember when 4,000 yards for a QB would put you in the top 3 or even top 1? things change i guess.

It's definitely become a pass happy league.

SFREDSKIN · 01-05-2016, 10:12 AM

Mark Rypien says Redskins' Kirk Cousins playing at 'elite level' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

JoeRedskin · 01-05-2016, 01:20 PM

Hard to argue KC is playing some Elite Style QB.

punch it in · 01-05-2016, 01:22 PM

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...sins-saved-nfl

J. Falcon · 01-05-2016, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Mark Rypien says Redskins' Kirk Cousins playing at 'elite level' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN

I'm interested in anything Mark Rypien has to say.

skinsfaninok · 01-05-2016, 02:24 PM

Stats don't lie I've always said this, so I agree kirk is playing like a top 5 QB right now. Honestly who is playing better? R Wilson and cam newton that's about all I got. Palmer maybe that's it though

WillH · 01-05-2016, 04:21 PM

I doubted him, I thought he might turn into a serviceable place holder as McCloughan built a team and after he got the meat of the team the way he wanted, then he would find the franchise QB. I think I even called him Rex Grossman 2.0 early in the season. I am so glad I was so wrong. What an awesome surprise, we may already have our franchise QB. That puts us at least 2 years ahead of schedule.

Why do I say may? Well, because the last time I let myself be this excited about our QB, it was RG3. In 2012 I thought,(having suffered through Schuler, Frerotte, Ramsey, and Campbell) FINALLY, a young franchise QB! He was a sure thing, I mean look what he had done, and he was just a rookie! Skies the limit, he's possibly a future HOF, he's changing the position, and he will only get better as he learns to be a pocket passer! Also, the team seemed to love playing with him, and he had a personality (unlike Jason Campbell *cough* *cough*). We were just beginning a new golden age of the Redskins. And then . . .

Ok, so I'm trying not to have my heartbroken again, but to me this time it feels different. I think he might be the one. Let me count the reasons:

1."You Like That!" most importantly he is passionate, which is just so fun to watch and route for, it kind of reminds me of watching Favre. God knows I'm acting like a maniac after a TD or a big win, and I want a QB that is pumped. He certainly matches and probably exceeds my level of passion as a fan, and I like that!

2. He's a pocket passer. He doesn't need to completely reinvent his style of play to progress as a QB. Even if he stops developing right now, and has this level of production (past 10 games) going forward he will be the best QB we've ever had, and be top 5 - 10 in the league.

3. I don't hold my breath every time he steps back in the pocket, or gets hit, or scrambles . . .

4. The whole team is inspired by him, not just likes him and thinks he's talented. He has won the whole team over and it shows, and they all seem to be having a blast!

If next season goes as we all are imagining it will right now, I think I'll be ready to commit.

HTTR

punch it in · 01-05-2016, 04:47 PM

I would not worry about him breaking your heart like Griff. KC-1 is built to last.

NoCalHail · 01-05-2016, 05:07 PM

It's hard to argue that Kirk is playing at an elite level right now. The biggest question, and this really goes for the entire team and not just Kirk, is whether they truly turned a corner a month ago or are the stats on offense severely inflated due to the level of competition they've faced to close the season.

It doesn't really matter for the rest of this season because playoff win or not, 9-7/winning the division is way exceeding expectations.

However because of the results, the expectations going into 2017 are going to end up being similar to 2013 where it is automatically expected the team is going to be 2-3 wins better, a playoff team, deeper run in post-season.

CRedskinsRule · 01-05-2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCalHail

It's hard to argue that Kirk is playing at an elite level right now. The biggest question, and this really goes for the entire team and not just Kirk, is whether they truly turned a corner a month ago or are the stats on offense severely inflated due to the level of competition they've faced to close the season.

It doesn't really matter for the rest of this season because playoff win or not, 9-7/winning the division is way exceeding expectations.

However because of the results, the expectations going into 2017 are going to end up being similar to 2013 where it is automatically expected the team is going to be 2-3 wins better, a playoff team, deeper run in post-season.

Well said.

I will add, if KC and the offense puts up 24+ points (geez I'm easy to please) against a quality opponent like GB, then I will lose the last shred of skepticism.

I have no doubt that the next draft will add talent, and I expect it will add it at the right places. I also believe that we will make good choices with respect to all the returning players, including KC. All of that will lead to a better team next year.

Here are our last 4 opponents, (Total D rank, opponent, passing D rank)
14 Chi 4
19 Buf 19
30 Phi 28
17 Dal 5

Here is our path to the SB (+ Seattle)
15 GB 6
6 Car 11
5 Arz 8
2 Sea 2

Dallas didn't play us like a top 5 passing D(shocked me to see that), and Chicago we won by the Skins of our teeth.

IF KC's progression is real, then these next 2-4 games will bear it out, if not, then 1 and out will will provide fodder for the summer

NoCalHail · 01-05-2016, 06:56 PM

I think what jumps out the most over the last month was the aggressiveness in the play-calling. I really think the Gruden & McVay might have done some reconsidering after that loss to Dallas where it looked like their game plan was to simply outlast a mediocre opponent.

Contrast that to how we played in the 2nd game, where it was go out and attack and score as much as you can, as early as you can. I know Sean Lee was missing from the game, but it's not like it was the running game that made any kind of difference early in that anyway which is where Lee shines the most.

It really makes you wonder how different this offense could have possibly looked early in the season if Cousins had a full camp taking 1st team reps. There is no way we lose that home opener to Miami in that fashion.

01-04-2016, 11:42 PM	#198
Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: Cousins has arrived Another great little chart. Top 10 QB? I would say so __________________ I need something to cheer about Redskin Fan since '88 Be friends on Twitter! @thecasualhero

01-05-2016, 07:59 AM	#199
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,584	Re: Cousins has arrived remember when 4,000 yards for a QB would put you in the top 3 or even top 1? things change i guess.

01-05-2016, 10:12 AM	#201
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Cousins has arrived Mark Rypien says Redskins' Kirk Cousins playing at 'elite level' - Washington Redskins Blog- ESPN __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

01-05-2016, 01:20 PM	#202
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Cousins has arrived Hard to argue KC is playing some Elite Style QB. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

01-05-2016, 01:22 PM	#203
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,877	Re: Cousins has arrived http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...sins-saved-nfl

01-05-2016, 02:24 PM	#205
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Cousins has arrived Stats don't lie I've always said this, so I agree kirk is playing like a top 5 QB right now. Honestly who is playing better? R Wilson and cam newton that's about all I got. Palmer maybe that's it though __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

01-05-2016, 04:21 PM	#206
WillH The Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,592	Re: Cousins has arrived I doubted him, I thought he might turn into a serviceable place holder as McCloughan built a team and after he got the meat of the team the way he wanted, then he would find the franchise QB. I think I even called him Rex Grossman 2.0 early in the season. I am so glad I was so wrong. What an awesome surprise, we may already have our franchise QB. That puts us at least 2 years ahead of schedule. Why do I say may? Well, because the last time I let myself be this excited about our QB, it was RG3. In 2012 I thought,(having suffered through Schuler, Frerotte, Ramsey, and Campbell) FINALLY, a young franchise QB! He was a sure thing, I mean look what he had done, and he was just a rookie! Skies the limit, he's possibly a future HOF, he's changing the position, and he will only get better as he learns to be a pocket passer! Also, the team seemed to love playing with him, and he had a personality (unlike Jason Campbell cough cough). We were just beginning a new golden age of the Redskins. And then . . . Ok, so I'm trying not to have my heartbroken again, but to me this time it feels different. I think he might be the one. Let me count the reasons: 1."You Like That!" most importantly he is passionate, which is just so fun to watch and route for, it kind of reminds me of watching Favre. God knows I'm acting like a maniac after a TD or a big win, and I want a QB that is pumped. He certainly matches and probably exceeds my level of passion as a fan, and I like that! 2. He's a pocket passer. He doesn't need to completely reinvent his style of play to progress as a QB. Even if he stops developing right now, and has this level of production (past 10 games) going forward he will be the best QB we've ever had, and be top 5 - 10 in the league. 3. I don't hold my breath every time he steps back in the pocket, or gets hit, or scrambles . . . 4. The whole team is inspired by him, not just likes him and thinks he's talented. He has won the whole team over and it shows, and they all seem to be having a blast! If next season goes as we all are imagining it will right now, I think I'll be ready to commit. HTTR __________________ You like that! You like that!

01-05-2016, 04:47 PM	#207
punch it in From a Land Down Under Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: toms river, nj Age: 53 Posts: 23,877	Re: Cousins has arrived I would not worry about him breaking your heart like Griff. KC-1 is built to last.

01-05-2016, 05:07 PM	#208
NoCalHail Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 368	Re: Cousins has arrived It's hard to argue that Kirk is playing at an elite level right now. The biggest question, and this really goes for the entire team and not just Kirk, is whether they truly turned a corner a month ago or are the stats on offense severely inflated due to the level of competition they've faced to close the season. It doesn't really matter for the rest of this season because playoff win or not, 9-7/winning the division is way exceeding expectations. However because of the results, the expectations going into 2017 are going to end up being similar to 2013 where it is automatically expected the team is going to be 2-3 wins better, a playoff team, deeper run in post-season.

01-05-2016, 06:56 PM	#210
NoCalHail Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 368	Re: Cousins has arrived I think what jumps out the most over the last month was the aggressiveness in the play-calling. I really think the Gruden & McVay might have done some reconsidering after that loss to Dallas where it looked like their game plan was to simply outlast a mediocre opponent. Contrast that to how we played in the 2nd game, where it was go out and attack and score as much as you can, as early as you can. I know Sean Lee was missing from the game, but it's not like it was the running game that made any kind of difference early in that anyway which is where Lee shines the most. It really makes you wonder how different this offense could have possibly looked early in the season if Cousins had a full camp taking 1st team reps. There is no way we lose that home opener to Miami in that fashion.

Cousins has arrived

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