Cousins has arrived

That Guy · 12-30-2015, 11:41 PM

i don't think gruden is an amazing coach, but i think he's an honest and generally competent one.

MTK · 12-31-2015, 06:32 AM

The players love Gruden.

30gut · 12-31-2015, 09:09 AM

In my view Gruden got off to a rocky start. Early on he was impatient at the QB position (including Kirk), the team looked unprepared and/or out coached at times. His press conferences were an untapped stream of consciousness ramble and was far too honest with the media for my taste.

I got the impression that he was sharp with passing game Xs and Os in his system but was/remains inflexible in making major schematic adjustments (which is fine provided there is production without those adjustments) and he kinda had a disheveled and bumbling appearance in my eyes compared to his brothers hardworking grinder type persona.

He has improved in many regards, helped no doubt by a weak NFC and schedule, but Kirk was his main accomplish. Getting Kirk to play productive, consistent, winning football. I still have concerns over (a) how his focus, approach, scheme and plan impact the running game (b) the inability to capitalize off turnovers (c) a stubbornness/ predictability to aspects of the offense (d) lack of adjustments on the fly to adapt to good defense (against bad defense he'll destroy them)

On the whole the offense is good. The special teams and defense are playing much better. Hats off to Scott.

Jay is still a young coach and he has given me much more reason to have faith going forward then at the start of the season.

punch it in · 12-31-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MTK

The players love Gruden.

Yup. They play for him. They believe in him. This cannot be overlooked no matter how you feel about his x's and o's. Which I am fine with anyway.

skinsfaninok · 12-31-2015, 11:28 AM

Jay should stay as long as kirk does, this appears to be the next Payton/Brees combo.

MTK · 12-31-2015, 11:54 AM

McVay may be even more important to Cousins than Gruden.

punch it in · 12-31-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

McVay may be even more important to Cousins than Gruden.

So earlier in the year Gruden was the playcaller and Mcvay was like an assistant. Or such was the talk on here(yes since I dont live in the DC area, my Skins news source is the WP), has Mcvay sort have stepped up on the control ladder?

over the mountain · 12-31-2015, 12:12 PM

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re Cousins new contract - I think he realizes this system is geared towards his strengths and he would not have nearly the same success in a diff system. also, gruden/mcvay put their coaching jobs on the line to give him this chance. i also feel like this high production level w very little picks can not be sustained over the long run and his numbers will start to regress back to his median .. still very very good but i dont see a brees/brady/rodgers/manning type production level. more like eli manning/dalton/ryan/flacco, which would be great over the long run.

SFREDSKIN · 12-31-2015, 12:22 PM

An old article about McVay

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oordinator-do/

HailGreen28 · 12-31-2015, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by over the mountain

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAH!

I would love to see Gruden do a Madden impersonation, Caliendo style.

over the mountain · 12-31-2015, 01:55 PM

Just heard something weird on one of my fav radio stations (wrnr out of annapolis) i stream while being attached to an office chair 8-10 hours a day.

Apparently cousins and the redskins are reading Lord of the Rings and like referencing it during games. I googled it and found this recent article really giving you insight on how OCD cousins is.

“I think developing a weekly rhythm and a weekly routine enables you to turn your brain off and just go through the routine as opposed to having to say, ‘What’s next?’ So, the beginning of the year I just sat down and made a spreadsheet of every 15-minute increment of my day for all seven days of the week and color-coded every [laughter] — I’m dead serious — I color-coded every 15-minute increment with what I’m doing. I said, ‘Alright, I’m in the cold tub at this time. I’m eating lunch at this time. On Mondays, it’s spend-time-with-my-wife time.’

“Today, the gray became the white,” Cousins tells some linemen near the end of the game. “We look to the east”

Cousins is seen celebrating after both of his second-half touchdown passes. After the short pass to Pierre Garcon, Cousins sprints toward the end zone.

“That’s all you. That’s all you. All you 88,” Cousins yells at Garcon, his voice cracking. “What a baller. What a baller. You guys are the best!”

And after his deep ball to DeSean Jackson, Cousins performs a loop-dee-loop before heading toward Jackson, his voice cracking again.

“Yeah yeah yeah, yeahhhhhhhh,” he says, before finding Jackson. “You’re the best. You are the best. Ahahaha, this guy, this guy, ahahaha, how good is he?”
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“Look at what putting our foot on the gas pedal the whole time has done,” Cousins says.

“That’s what we did last week, too,” McVay responds. “I’m going to keep doing that, dude. I‘m learning too. Dude, I’m learning.”

“Basically man, the first seven or eight games it was like ‘Well, we don’t want to put it all on me because I’m new,’ ” Cousins goes on.

“Yeah I know,” McVay says.

“But now that we’re doing that, it’s been our best shot,” Cousins concludes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-celebrations/

NYCskinfan82 · 12-31-2015, 02:57 PM

I'm happy we made the playoffs and like I said next year will be the test. We have the right GM/front office in place to get us back there I will leave it at that. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.

rocnrik · 12-31-2015, 04:43 PM

there is always the next test and the next and next…as far as I'm concerned the real test was last saturday night and We passed! I'm not worried about next year ..we have playoff games in front of us that we can win. Cousins is the best thing that has happened to skins in forever and he has done everything to become a very high quality QB . There are teams out there who would gladly give up first round pick plus more for his services .we are fortunate we got him.

REDSKINS4ever · 12-31-2015, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MTK

The players love Gruden.

Jay Gruden is a player's coach...his brother was a great his coach and his father was a head coach.... so I knew he had what it took to be a head coach.... last season he was dealing with the baggage from the Shanahan regime. And as a rookie head coach last year he could do no better than he did.

I think he's ascending as a head coach now.

redskinsfan1980 · 01-01-2016, 01:31 PM

I must admit I didn't confidence in Cousins early in the season. Over three weeks he's been looking like an elite qb. It's not a matter of stats. It's how he's playing the position. He's setting protections, looking off safeties, reading defenses, and passing the ball very efficiently. What I find the most impressive is that he's doing all of this without a running game. Personally, I believe he can get even better.

12-30-2015, 11:41 PM	#121
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 42 Posts: 17,584	Re: Cousins has arrived i don't think gruden is an amazing coach, but i think he's an honest and generally competent one.

12-31-2015, 06:32 AM	#122
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,749	Re: Cousins has arrived The players love Gruden. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-31-2015, 09:09 AM	#123
30gut Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 3,323	Re: Cousins has arrived In my view Gruden got off to a rocky start. Early on he was impatient at the QB position (including Kirk), the team looked unprepared and/or out coached at times. His press conferences were an untapped stream of consciousness ramble and was far too honest with the media for my taste. I got the impression that he was sharp with passing game Xs and Os in his system but was/remains inflexible in making major schematic adjustments (which is fine provided there is production without those adjustments) and he kinda had a disheveled and bumbling appearance in my eyes compared to his brothers hardworking grinder type persona. He has improved in many regards, helped no doubt by a weak NFC and schedule, but Kirk was his main accomplish. Getting Kirk to play productive, consistent, winning football. I still have concerns over (a) how his focus, approach, scheme and plan impact the running game (b) the inability to capitalize off turnovers (c) a stubbornness/ predictability to aspects of the offense (d) lack of adjustments on the fly to adapt to good defense (against bad defense he'll destroy them) On the whole the offense is good. The special teams and defense are playing much better. Hats off to Scott. Jay is still a young coach and he has given me much more reason to have faith going forward then at the start of the season.

12-31-2015, 11:28 AM	#125
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 38 Posts: 36,175	Re: Cousins has arrived Jay should stay as long as kirk does, this appears to be the next Payton/Brees combo. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

12-31-2015, 11:54 AM	#126
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,749	Re: Cousins has arrived McVay may be even more important to Cousins than Gruden. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-31-2015, 12:12 PM	#128
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Cousins has arrived --------------------- re Cousins new contract - I think he realizes this system is geared towards his strengths and he would not have nearly the same success in a diff system. also, gruden/mcvay put their coaching jobs on the line to give him this chance. i also feel like this high production level w very little picks can not be sustained over the long run and his numbers will start to regress back to his median .. still very very good but i dont see a brees/brady/rodgers/manning type production level. more like eli manning/dalton/ryan/flacco, which would be great over the long run. __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

12-31-2015, 12:22 PM	#129
SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: Cousins has arrived An old article about McVay https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...oordinator-do/ __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

12-31-2015, 01:55 PM	#131
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Cousins has arrived Just heard something weird on one of my fav radio stations (wrnr out of annapolis) i stream while being attached to an office chair 8-10 hours a day. Apparently cousins and the redskins are reading Lord of the Rings and like referencing it during games. I googled it and found this recent article really giving you insight on how OCD cousins is. “I think developing a weekly rhythm and a weekly routine enables you to turn your brain off and just go through the routine as opposed to having to say, ‘What’s next?’ So, the beginning of the year I just sat down and made a spreadsheet of every 15-minute increment of my day for all seven days of the week and color-coded every [laughter] — I’m dead serious — I color-coded every 15-minute increment with what I’m doing. I said, ‘Alright, I’m in the cold tub at this time. I’m eating lunch at this time. On Mondays, it’s spend-time-with-my-wife time.’ “Today, the gray became the white,” Cousins tells some linemen near the end of the game. “We look to the east” Cousins is seen celebrating after both of his second-half touchdown passes. After the short pass to Pierre Garcon, Cousins sprints toward the end zone. “That’s all you. That’s all you. All you 88,” Cousins yells at Garcon, his voice cracking. “What a baller. What a baller. You guys are the best!” And after his deep ball to DeSean Jackson, Cousins performs a loop-dee-loop before heading toward Jackson, his voice cracking again. “Yeah yeah yeah, yeahhhhhhhh,” he says, before finding Jackson. “You’re the best. You are the best. Ahahaha, this guy, this guy, ahahaha, how good is he?” ---------------------------- “Look at what putting our foot on the gas pedal the whole time has done,” Cousins says. “That’s what we did last week, too,” McVay responds. “I’m going to keep doing that, dude. I‘m learning too. Dude, I’m learning.” “Basically man, the first seven or eight games it was like ‘Well, we don’t want to put it all on me because I’m new,’ ” Cousins goes on. “Yeah I know,” McVay says. “But now that we’re doing that, it’s been our best shot,” Cousins concludes. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-celebrations/ __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

12-31-2015, 02:57 PM	#132
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 55 Posts: 3,803	Re: Cousins has arrived I'm happy we made the playoffs and like I said next year will be the test. We have the right GM/front office in place to get us back there I will leave it at that. HAPPY NEW YEAR to all.

12-31-2015, 04:43 PM	#133
rocnrik Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2,755	Re: Cousins has arrived there is always the next test and the next and next…as far as I'm concerned the real test was last saturday night and We passed! I'm not worried about next year ..we have playoff games in front of us that we can win. Cousins is the best thing that has happened to skins in forever and he has done everything to become a very high quality QB . There are teams out there who would gladly give up first round pick plus more for his services .we are fortunate we got him.

01-01-2016, 01:31 PM	#135
redskinsfan1980 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 193	Re: Cousins has arrived I must admit I didn't confidence in Cousins early in the season. Over three weeks he's been looking like an elite qb. It's not a matter of stats. It's how he's playing the position. He's setting protections, looking off safeties, reading defenses, and passing the ball very efficiently. What I find the most impressive is that he's doing all of this without a running game. Personally, I believe he can get even better.

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