Paintrain's all encompassing 'discuss all things offseason' thread (Version 2.0)

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Manziels mechanics are better at his age than Tebows were. Manziel has already adressed it, Tebow tried to adress it too late.

I agree with you here.

My comparison with Tebow was more global. I meant they both get a lot of press and neither will live up to it in the NFL.

But some folks here love Manziel and that's cool. I'm not a soothsayer, just offering two cents.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I agree with you here.



My comparison with Tebow was more global. I meant they both get a lot of press and neither will live up to it in the NFL.



But some folks here love Manziel and that's cool. I'm not a soothsayer, just offering two cents.

Well I am a soothsayer, just like my father, and my father before....
Honestly, since he isnt going to be a Redskin, I hope he sucks worse than Tebow for whatever reason.

[NC_Skins]

@RapSheet

The #Seahawks four-year extension for safety Earl Thomas pays him $40 million base value with $27.725 million guaranteed, source says.



@TomPelissero
Fixed: full value of Thomas' new deal is 5 years, $44.625M -- an $8.925M average, which likely is no coincidence. Jairus Byrd got $8.75M per

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

@RapSheet

The #Seahawks four-year extension for safety Earl Thomas pays him $40 million base value with $27.725 million guaranteed, source says.



@TomPelissero
Fixed: full value of Thomas' new deal is 5 years, $44.625M -- an $8.925M average, which likely is no coincidence. Jairus Byrd got $8.75M per

Best safety in the league. Well deserved. Chancellor is already locked up long term too. Possibility is to best safety duo ever

[NC_Skins]

Former Washington Redskins Wide Receiver Josh Morgan Denies Accusation He Punched D.C. Valet Driver | NBC4 Washington

I'm glad this dumbass is gone. Good riddance. Still can't believe Shanny was giving that fool 6 mil a season.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Former Washington Redskins Wide Receiver Josh Morgan Denies Accusation He Punched D.C. Valet Driver | NBC4 Washington

I'm glad this dumbass is gone. Good riddance. Still can't believe Shanny was giving that fool 6 mil a season.

Note to self: Never sign former 49er receivers or pass catchers not named Vernon Davis or Anquan Boldin.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Best safety in the league. Well deserved. Chancellor is already locked up long term too. Possibility is to best safety duo ever

Would have been nice to have Sean and Laron play together for an extended period of time huh?

But yes they may go down as one of the best ever.

[MTK]

I cringe at the thought of hearing the name "Johnny Football" for the next 10 years. Plus I think the guy is a mega douche. Two reasons I'm praying he's a bust.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Would have been nice to have Sean and Laron play together for an extended period of time huh?

But yes they may go down as one of the best ever.

I can't help but think Landry would have ended up as Landry regardless. Even if he continued playing at the same level as earlier in his career he likely would have still run into the injury bug.

Taylor on the other hand, I know we kind of romanticize about him a lot, but he really was worthy of the hype. Especially when he started to learn how to play center field. I mean how many safeties in the league today are 6'3 230 his kind of speed and agility. The best way I can describe him to all the youngins today was he was the defensive back version of Megatron.

Funny thing I noticed though when watching this video was below that the poll for ESPN in regards to which player should the Redskins draft read 48% Kellen Winslow 35% Sean Taylor right before Taylor was selected.

Another thing I noticed even back then Mara seemed to have it in for the Redskins.
"Whats that Joe Gibbs is making his first draft pick in 12 years? Better agree to trade with Chargers for Eli Manning so we can get back on TV."

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I cringe at the thought of hearing the name "Johnny Football" for the next 10 years. Plus I think the guy is a mega douche. Two reasons I'm praying he's a bust.

He has the douche potential to be one of the all time greats. I'm with lotus and not buying the hype, it's tebow-like.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

He has the douche potential to be one of the all time greats. I'm with lotus and not buying the hype, it's tebow-like.

Eh, no where near Tebow in terms of bust potential. Similar though in regards to surrounding talent level. Two top 5 tackles. Throwing to guys like Evans and Swope certainly helped while playing in a somewhat QB friendly offense. I literally put his odds of NFL success at 50-50 as I could easily see him go either way (pro bowler or bust).

With that said, isn't it F*****G awesome not having to worry about finding a QB. I mean sure we have other stuff as far as injuries to worry about with RG3 but DAMMIT its nice to not have QB be a need going into the draft.

In other news the comment section for this article made me think that Jeff Ireland might be the worst NFL GM of all time.
Ex-Dolphins GM Jeff Ireland lands a job with the Seahawks | FOX Sports on MSN
List of Offenses
- Letting Welker go to New England for a 2nd round pick
- Choosing Culpepper over Brees
- Drafting Jake Long over Matt Ryan
- Dez Bryant incident
- Was at least there for the Richie Incognito fiasco

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

He has the douche potential to be one of the all time greats. I'm with lotus and not buying the hype, it's tebow-like.

Now that's funny.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Now that's funny.

Actually come to think of it who are the all time greats. I can think of a short list in no particular order.

- OJ Simpson
- OJ Simpson
- OJ Simpson
- Lance Armstrong
- Lance Armstrong
- Lance Armstrong
- Lance Armstrong
- T.O
- Donovan McNabb during the twilight years
- Lebron James Mid Career
- Michael Jordan (hid it well for most of his playing career)
- Barry Bonds
- Rafael "I never did steroids...today" Palmeiro
- Sammy "No I don't speak English" But you just did "No I didn't I mean ?Que? !No hablo ingles!" Sosa (Super Serial comment. I will offer my eternal friendship as well as pay infinity billion dollars to whoever can find the 2005 episode of Conan where he "interviews" Sosa following the steroids in baseball scandal.")
- Cristiano "I'm too sexy for my shirt" Ronaldo
- Alex "I swear its just a mid-life crisis clinic" Rodriguez
- Floyd Mayweather Jr
- Roger Clemens

......for simplicity purposes maybe we should exempt baseball players from the list.

Though of course we all know the ultimate UNDISPUTED all time douchebag in all of sports. BARRY SANDERS!!!! Heres a list of just a few of his many offenses.

- Handing the ball off to the ref after TD's like he's better than everyone. How cocky do you have to be to act like you've been in the endzone before?

- During his senior year of High School football letting the young kids play instead of going for the city rushing title.

- Saying that he'd never consider himself better than Emmitt Smith. Someone should have asked him the tough questions like "Would you consider yourself better at remembering names and the English than a Emnit Smitth."

- Saying he felt Rodney Peete deserved the Heisman after he won it.

The list goes on and on.

Follow Up Edit: I'm super serial about the Conan-Sammy Sosa thing.

[Giantone]

[QUOTE=Dirtbag59;1069576]I can't help but think Landry would have ended up as Landry regardless. Even if he continued playing at the same level as earlier in his career he likely would have still run into the injury bug.

Taylor on the other hand, I know we kind of romanticize about him a lot, but he really was worthy of the hype. Especially when he started to learn how to play center field. I mean how many safeties in the league today are 6'3 230 his kind of speed and agility. The best way I can describe him to all the youngins today was he was the defensive back version of Megatron.

Funny thing I noticed though when watching this video was below that the poll for ESPN in regards to which player should the Redskins draft read 48% Kellen Winslow 35% Sean Taylor right before Taylor was selected.
[QUOTE]


I seem to remember ,maybe it was draft day ,the Browns being in the hunt for Taylor .(also)

[punch it in]

If not for the injuries and controversies in the nfl Winslow could have been great. He was, well....a dumbass.
Im sure the Browns were in the hunt for Taylor too because Butch Davis was the coach there at the time.