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[TheMalcolmConnection]

Right. BEST case scenario is Rak goes somewhere else, we sign Rob Jackson to a cap-friendly contract, then find out that he's nowhere close to as good as Orakpo.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

Right. BEST case scenario is Rak goes somewhere else, we sign Rob Jackson to a cap-friendly contract, then find out that he's nowhere close to as good as Orakpo.

Don't we already know that?

IMO we likely will overpay for Rak, as it will take some elite money to sign him despite the fact that he has not put up elite numbers. But not to sign him creates a large hole which is very difficult to fill.

[OnceWeWereKings]

Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....

[donofriose]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....

He has missed one season.Besides that one injury he has missed two games in his career if I remember correctly. Its like saying Brady is injury prone because he missed one season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by OnceWeWereKings

Why is no one brining up the major injury issues for the last 3 years? Does anyone consider him an injury liabilty? I can sre us signing him, and anothrr injury next season aroung the halfway point. It wouldn't be surprising at all given the recent history. I'm a fan of rak, but lets not forget how many games have been missed since 2011.....

Exaggerate much?

He's missed one season in his career.

[OnceWeWereKings]

I apologize. I thought he hurt his shoulder/pec earlier in the 2011 season. I'm not against re-signing him by any means...just playing devils advocate. I would have fact checked myself before posting, but I was in post nyquil haze after I woke up...

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Don't we already know that?

IMO we likely will overpay for Rak, as it will take some elite money to sign him despite the fact that he has not put up elite numbers. But not to sign him creates a large hole which is very difficult to fill.

Where was that hole during the 7 game win streak when he was out of the lineup?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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Where was that hole during the 7 game win streak when he was out of the lineup?

Aside from the year he was out in 2012, Rak has averaged about 60 tackles and 10 sacks a year.

Rob Jackson had 37 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 16 games in 2012.

So that's a 23 tackle and 5.5 sack difference. It's relatively easy to find someone who will put up Jackson's 4.5 sacks; it is hard to find someone who will put up 10 sacks. That hole.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Aside from the year he was out in 2012, Rak has averaged about 60 tackles and 10 sacks a year.

Rob Jackson had 37 tackles and 4.5 sacks in 16 games in 2012.

So that's a 23 tackle and 5.5 sack difference. It's relatively easy to find someone who will put up Jackson's 4.5 sacks; it is hard to find someone who will put up 10 sacks. That hole.

Well Jackson didn't start the entire year in 2012. I'm not saying Jackson is as good. He's not as good a pass rusher, but maybe a combo of Jackon and Jenkins can get the job done vs paying Rak 9 mil a year.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well Jackson didn't start the entire year in 2012. I'm not saying Jackson is as good. He's not as good a pass rusher, but maybe a combo of Jackon and Jenkins can get the job done vs paying Rak 9 mil a year.

The redskins will not sign Orakpo for 9 million. They will probably end up franchising him(11 million) and letting him show them he is worth the 12 to 13 million a year he will want. Yeah, its going to cost that kind of money to sign him.