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Old 12-31-2013, 10:03 AM   #1
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Re: Let's talk about the front office situation

It's funny that the two Jason's have the most to say about the situation, They seem to also have the most animosity towards the administration. No matter what Snyder would have done they would have spun it negative.
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It's funny that the two Jason's have the most to say about the situation, They seem to also have the most animosity towards the administration. No matter what Snyder would have done they would have spun it negative.
The front office has been a big liability ever since Snyder took over. I think it's a little naive to not at least look at our setup with a critical eye and wonder if we're doing the right thing. The one thing Snyder hasn't tried yet is having a true GM run the show. Personnel is not Allen's strength. If the plan is for Campbell to run the show draft wise and for Brown to run the show regarding pro personnel, and for Allen to more or less rubber stamp their decisions, that could possibly work.
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The front office has been a big liability ever since Snyder took over. I think it's a little naive to not at least look at our setup with a critical eye and wonder if we're doing the right thing. The one thing Snyder hasn't tried yet is having a true GM run the show. Personnel is not Allen's strength. If the plan is for Campbell to run the show draft wise and for Brown to run the show regarding pro personnel, and for Allen to more or less rubber stamp their decisions, that could possibly work.
Many Redskins fans are writing off Bruce Allen like he is not a legit executive. His strength is that he is a strong executive and will run the franchise like a business. He will rely on his team to help him make good decisions. Don't be surprised to see AJ Smith and Scott Campbell representing for us at the draft. I hope that we add someone for the 49ers front office staff.
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Many Redskins fans are writing off Bruce Allen like he is not a legit executive. His strength is that he is a strong executive and will run the franchise like a business. He will rely on his team to help him make good decisions. Don't be surprised to see AJ Smith and Scott Campbell representing for us at the draft. I hope that we add someone for the 49ers front office staff.
I don't think anyone denies he's not a strong executive, but personnel isn't his thing.
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I don't think anyone denies he's not a strong executive, but personnel isn't his thing.
It doesn't need to be if he utilizes his player personnel directors properly. A good manager makes sure that the people who work for him are smarter than he is at what they do.
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It doesn't need to be if he utilizes his player personnel directors properly. A good manager makes sure that the people who work for him are smarter than he is at what they do.
I totally agree and I'm pretty sure that's the plan. I already feel a million times better about the FO with Shanahan out of the way.
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I don't think anyone denies he's not a strong executive, but personnel isn't his thing.
Every executive has his strengths and weaknesses. Player evaluation is not Bruce's strong suit, that is why AJ is on staff to help him with that.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:13 PM   #8
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Many Redskins fans are writing off Bruce Allen like he is not a legit executive. His strength is that he is a strong executive and will run the franchise like a business. He will rely on his team to help him make good decisions. Don't be surprised to see AJ Smith and Scott Campbell representing for us at the draft. I hope that we add someone for the 49ers front office staff.
a good executive in my book means knowing his place in the chain of command.

i really liked how bruce came out and laid things straight yesterday with a seemingly clear and firm game plan. I am worried that as a good executive he will submit to his boss who no one can deny likes to put his hand in the pot and feel like he is doing more than writing checks.

surprised bruce came out and gave mike the verbal middle finger .. i do wonder if that was to please DS by taking a clear shot at mike.

i really dont get why we are knocking shanahan's draft picks. the worst draft pick was a 3rd round OL guy ..... i really liked the roster he put together under the circumstances.


if DS does meddle i am going to be seriously seriously pissed off. this structure and environment as it stands now is ripe for DS meddling.

i think bruce is more a yes man vs sticking up to DS and it scares me
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a good executive in my book means knowing his place in the chain of command.

i really liked how bruce came out and laid things straight yesterday with a seemingly clear and firm game plan. I am worried that as a good executive he will submit to his boss who no one can deny likes to put his hand in the pot and feel like he is doing more than writing checks.

surprised bruce came out and gave mike the verbal middle finger .. i do wonder if that was to please DS by taking a clear shot at mike.

i really dont get why we are knocking shanahan's draft picks. the worst draft pick was a 3rd round OL guy ..... i really liked the roster he put together under the circumstances.


if DS does meddle i am going to be seriously seriously pissed off. this structure and environment as it stands now is ripe for DS meddling.

i think bruce is more a yes man vs sticking up to DS and it scares me
Is there really much here to like?

2010: Trent Williams and Perry Riley, the other 4 picks are long gone.
2011: Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, meh to the rest.
2012: RG3, Morris, Cousins, the rest are mostly weekly inactives.
2013: Amerson, Reed, no impact from the rest.

11 guys worthing noting in 4 drafts? 3 truly impactful guys (Griffin, Trent, Morris). We need to do a lot better in order to really get this team moving in the right direction.
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Old 12-31-2013, 03:29 PM   #10
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Is there really much here to like?

2010: Trent Williams and Perry Riley, the other 4 picks are long gone.
2011: Kerrigan, Jenkins, Hankerson, Helu, meh to the rest.
2012: RG3, Morris, Cousins, the rest are mostly weekly inactives.
2013: Amerson, Reed, no impact from the rest.

11 guys worthing noting in 4 drafts? 3 truly impactful guys (Griffin, Trent, Morris). We need to do a lot better in order to really get this team moving in the right direction.
considering 1) where some of these guys were drafted (4th R or later) and 2) our draft history before MS ... i think mike did better than anyone under DS's tenure imo. looking at those names you listed, that is our young core players.
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Old 12-31-2013, 01:12 PM   #11
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Mr. Allen, I know a boss when I see one and you sir are no boss. For 4 years you were collecting a paycheck as the GM of this team when in reality Shannahan was the GM and you were the GM in name only. Now you want us to believe you are the boss? Is that your jet flying around picking up the Griffins? Is that your limo chauffeuring the wife of a particular player? You and your BOSS disgust me. May the lord save us from your "leadership."
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