It's official: Shanahan fired

DynamiteRave · 12-30-2013, 10:39 AM

I'm glad to see Danny eating that last 7 million dollars. How long til the Shanahan apologists come trolling in and start blaming Snyder for being an awful owner?

He hasn't always made the best decisions but dude wants to win, period.

skinsfan69 · 12-30-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm glad to see Danny eating that last 7 million dollars. How long til the Shanahan apologists come trolling in and start blaming Snyder for being an awful owner?

He hasn't always made the best decisions but dude wants to win, period.

Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

GTripp0012 · 12-30-2013, 10:49 AM

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Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

This head coach?

KI Skins Fan · 12-30-2013, 11:08 AM

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Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

Oh, please! The things that were reported as meddling by Snyder were small potatoes.

I think that Shanahan and his media mouthpieces blew up a few minor annoyances to Shanahan into the appearance that he was somehow hindered in doing his job by Snyder's meddling. What a crock that is!

We finished 3-13! We went 0-8 without a single win in the second half of the season! We didn't win a single division game! How bad does a team's performance have to be before the HC takes the blame?

A trained monkey, blindfolded and put in a straight jacket by Dan Snyder, could have coached this team to a win over somebody in the second half of the season.

FRPLG · 12-30-2013, 11:27 AM

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I think that Shanahan and his media mouthpieces blew up a few minor annoyances to Shanahan into the appearance that he was somehow hindered in doing his job by Snyder's meddling. What a crock that is!

That was the problem. What might seem like minor annoyances to us and probably most people were big problems for Shanahan. He was obsessed with controlling everything. Whenever he felt even remotely threatened he got all weaselly Machiavellian. I think he might actually be crazy.

SFREDSKIN · 12-30-2013, 11:29 AM

I know David Shaw might not be interested but I hope the Redskins make an attempt to reach out to him.

FRPLG · 12-30-2013, 11:21 AM

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Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

I think what is obvious is that Shanny is a very insecure person. I think Snyder did some things that the insecure Shanny considered "damaging" but that a confident well-adjusted HC would have been able to handle pretty easily. If being friends with the team's QB is what people want to hang their hats on to support Shanny and vilify Snyder then you have a tremendously weak argument.

skinsfan69 · 12-30-2013, 11:35 AM

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I think what is obvious is that Shanny is a very insecure person. I think Snyder did some things that the insecure Shanny considered "damaging" but that a confident well-adjusted HC would have been able to handle pretty easily. If being friends with the team's QB is what people want to hang their hats on to support Shanny and vilify Snyder then you have a tremendously weak argument.

Well I will agree that he's probably insecure. That's something a Gibbs could probably handle. And as I've said before, if it's a more established player then it's fine. A rookie? Not a good thing at all. Hopefully the next coach won't have to put up with it, or is secure enough to ignore it.

FRPLG · 12-30-2013, 11:40 AM

Well we'll disagree on whether in this situation it was much of a problem or whether the reporting on it is very accurate anyways but...

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Hopefully the next coach won't have to put up with it, or is secure enough to ignore it.

It shouldn't be ignored. If (big if to me) it is some type of problem the HC has to handle it. Not by trying to manipulate the situation in a deceitful and shameless way but by dealing it with it like a damn responsible adult.

Giantone · 12-30-2013, 11:45 AM

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Well I will agree that he's probably insecure. That's something a Gibbs could probably handle. And as I've said before, if it's a more established player then it's fine. A rookie? Not a good thing at all. Hopefully the next coach won't have to put up with it, or is secure enough to ignore it.

Redskins fire coach Shanahan after 3-13 season | Comcast

Shanahan demanded - and received - contractual control over all football matters when he joined the Redskins, and he repeatedly emphasized the need to run a disciplined organization with a sense of decorum. He weeded out the disgruntled players - most notably Albert Haynesworth - but ultimately was unable to stymie what he called the ''circus atmosphere'' that has permeated the Redskins under Snyder. Leaks, rumors and power struggles were just as bad as before. He leaves with the same regular-season winning percentage (.375) in Washington as Spurrier and Zorn.
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jamf · 12-30-2013, 11:30 AM

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Snyder is not w/out blame here. Obviously he did some things that undermined his head coach.

Do you have proof of this?
You should if it's obvious.

MTK · 12-30-2013, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm glad to see Danny eating that last 7 million dollars. How long til the Shanahan apologists come trolling in and start blaming Snyder for being an awful owner?

He hasn't always made the best decisions but dude wants to win, period.

Closer to $13M for the whole staff, and another $10M or so to hire a new one. That's a lot of cheddar.

Gary84Clark · 12-30-2013, 10:52 AM

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Closer to $13M for the whole staff, and another $10M or so to hire a new one. That's a lot of cheddar.

Dan is spending the cheddar. Dan, it is your money, never hire someone that can position themselves to make you have to swallow in order to fire them. Make them accountable.

RFKRat · 12-30-2013, 10:57 AM

Redskins football, wash, rinse, repeat. Doesn't matter who they hire, under Snyder they are never going to be what they were 20+ years ago.

Shanahan was a bad hire to begin with, someone who's best days were behind him. Snyder likes the splashy name though. The culture and attitude on this team is so rotten to the core though, it doesn't matter who comes in, they are 4-5 years from contending, if they're serious this time, but I doubt it.

Meh.

12-30-2013, 10:39 AM	#1
DynamiteRave Living Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Age: 38 Posts: 16,867	Re: It's official: Shanahan fired I'm glad to see Danny eating that last 7 million dollars. How long til the Shanahan apologists come trolling in and start blaming Snyder for being an awful owner? He hasn't always made the best decisions but dude wants to win, period. __________________ Establishment, establishment, you always know what's best. I've been a part of this message board for 17 years. Damn I'm old.

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SFREDSKIN Living Legend Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pacifica, CA Posts: 15,164	Re: It's official: Shanahan fired I know David Shaw might not be interested but I hope the Redskins make an attempt to reach out to him. __________________ Joe Gibbs- The best coach of all time, Lombardi trophy should be renamed Gibbs. Art Monk- Art was like an OL playing WR, doing the dirty work and not getting the glory. Darrell Green- Best DB ever. Purveyor of fine Filth

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RFKRat Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 105	Re: It's official: Shanahan fired Redskins football, wash, rinse, repeat. Doesn't matter who they hire, under Snyder they are never going to be what they were 20+ years ago. Shanahan was a bad hire to begin with, someone who's best days were behind him. Snyder likes the splashy name though. The culture and attitude on this team is so rotten to the core though, it doesn't matter who comes in, they are 4-5 years from contending, if they're serious this time, but I doubt it. Meh.

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