Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[saskin]

Gibbs was a lil worried during the preseason and the first drive confirmed his suspicions. And y'all are forgetting Ramsey did get a pretty hard hit.

I don't think Gibbs wants to make last years mistake. As odd as that sounds....he wants to have a stable quarterback.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by Redskins88

Gibbs was a lil worried during the preseason and the first drive confirmed his suspicions. And y'all are forgetting Ramsey did get a pretty hard hit.

I don't think Gibbs wants to make last years mistake. As odd as that sounds....he wants to have a stable quarterback.

i'm sorry but the *first drive of the regular season* can't tell anyone anything. on the other hand, 10 games last season could, and it told Gibbs Brunell was stable and to try again? you're right, that does sound odd.

[Hijinx]

One thing no one is talking about in here is how the rest of the team will take this. I thought that I read that Ramsey was very well liked by his teamates. If they think that he got a bum rap and not a full chance, they'll lose repsect for Gibbs. Heck I've lost a bit of repect fo him. Its a damn bad sign if you've got a QB controversy before week 2. As soon as they drafted Campbell I knew this would happen. Remember those Wayne Fronts' Lions where no one would know who of their 3 QBs would start week to week.

Thing is I don't know if we have seen Ramsey's best football, but we have seen the most that Brunell is capable of and it does NOT impress me. I'd say with Brunell the Skins are no better then a 7-9 team.

[Joe Knows...]

Originally Posted by Hijinx

One thing no one is talking about in here is how the rest of the team will take this. I thought that I read that Ramsey was very well liked by his teamates. If they think that he got a bum rap and not a full chance, they'll lose repsect for Gibbs.

That's the only thing that really worries me about the situation. Especially since I know Jon Jansen is best friends with him.

My thought is they'll get over it though.

[jdlea]

Jon Jansen should be apologizing because it's all his fault. If he had picked up Briggs or even picked up a penalty by tripping Briggs, Ramsey never goes down and Gibbs doesn't get a look at Brunell....J/K

[SmootSmack]

I'm not going to lie, I've been a Brunell fan for years. Since back in his Jaguars days. So I'm probably a bit biased here.

That doesn't mean I can't like Ramsey as well. And I'll admit that one reason I really started rooting for Ramsey last year wasn't so much of him but Skinz_Domin8. Sigh, you guys remember him, right? Former Warpath user who was such an ass to everyone here and was so idiotic in his anti-Ramsey bashing that I rooted for Ramsey just to spite Domin8. Petty, I know.

But what I don't get is what does Gibbs really owe Ramsey? I mean, why should he have given him a chance in the first place? Gibbs was brought back to restore the team to the glory it last enjoyed under Gibbs' first tenure, with or without Ramsey. I know, I know-if we don't question Gibbs then why have this board-but as cruel as it may sound, Gibbs really doesn't owe Ramsey anything.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

But what I don't get is what does Gibbs really owe Ramsey? I mean, why should he have given him a chance in the first place? Gibbs was brought back to restore the team to the glory it last enjoyed under Gibbs' first tenure, with or without Ramsey. I know, I know-if we don't question Gibbs then why have this board-but as cruel as it may sound, Gibbs really doesn't owe Ramsey anything.

i feel the franchise owes Ramsey but all the franchise BS he's been through aside, the team itself deserves to have the guy they trained with all offseason behind center. not the old guy with no reps this season and had his chances already and gave us 6-10.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by illdefined

i feel the franchise owes Ramsey but all the franchise BS he's been through aside, the team itself deserves to have the guy they trained with all offseason behind center. not the old guy with no reps this season and had his chances already and gave us 6-10.

So Ramsey gets one, two, three, (and so on) chances but Brunell gets just one?

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

But what I don't get is what does Gibbs really owe Ramsey? I mean, why should he have given him a chance in the first place? Gibbs was brought back to restore the team to the glory it last enjoyed under Gibbs' first tenure, with or without Ramsey. I know, I know-if we don't question Gibbs then why have this board-but as cruel as it may sound, Gibbs really doesn't owe Ramsey anything.

He owes him exactly what he provided Brunell with. He didnt have to make him the starter, right. He did though. So why did he owe Brunell 9 weeks to f*ck things up, and he only gave Ramsey a quarter in which he didnt even play bad?

Bottom line, I think Gibbs is just looking for reasons to let Brunell play so that he can hopefully turn things around, and make Gibbs look good for picking him up in the first place.

The only things Joe Gibbs needs to worry about is winning football games. I dont care if he puts Osama Bin Laden behind center, he should be winning football games. I just dont understand why everyone thinks Mark Brunell was so good, or is going to be any better. He dosent look THAT good. He only threw for 70 yards yesterday. He looks NOTHING, ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING like he was in Jacksonville. When he was with the Jags, he could take games over and win them by himself, he was a manic. Lets not kid ourselves, he looks nothing like he used too. At this point, neither of these guys is the long term awnser, but for the love of god, the kid should have had more than 20 mintues before he got pulled.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

He owes him exactly what he provided Brunell with. He didnt have to make him the starter, right. He did though. So why did he owe Brunell 9 weeks to f*ck things up, and he only gave Ramsey a quarter in which he didnt even play bad?

Bottom line, I think Gibbs is just looking for reasons to let Brunell play so that he can hopefully turn things around, and make Gibbs look good for picking him up in the first place.

The only things Joe Gibbs needs to worry about is winning football games. I dont care if he puts Osama Bin Laden behind center, he should be winning football games. I just dont understand why everyone thinks Mark Brunell was so good, or is going to be any better. He dosent look THAT good. He only threw for 70 yards yesterday. At this point, neither of these guys is the long term awnser, but for the love of god, the kid should have had more than 20 mintues before he got pulled.

But that's the thing. Gibbs was brought in to restore the team to glory. It's not unlike when a new team owner buys a struggling team. And the owner says "I want my staff here" So he brings in the general manager he wants. The GM then brings in the coach he wants. The coach brings in his QB. There has to be a reason that when presented with his roster when he agreed to coach the team again Gibbs decided to go after another QB, and he was never obliged to hold onto Ramsey. Was he?

I don't know. I just don't get why every one thinks Brunell starting is a sign of the apocalypse