Ramsey wants to be traded (merged)

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by BigSKINBauer

Remember last time brunell played dallas he picked up over 300 yards

Yes. Then, over the next five games he averaged 129 yards, a QB rating of 55.82, .8 touchdowns, and completed 45% of his passes per game.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

Yes. Then, over the next five games he averaged 129 yards, a QB rating of 55.82, .8 touchdowns, and completed 45% of his passes per game.

You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.

I cannot admit it. What has made you think that it is anyone other than the Brunell from 2004 that is under center? His efficient, but relatively unproductive preseason performances?

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Ramseyfan

I cannot admit it. What has made you think that it is anyone other than the Brunell from 2004 that is under center? His efficient, but relatively unproductive preseason performances?

The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.

it's official. last season just did not happen and Skins fans are just as only-the-last-play short term memory as Philly fans.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.

Ramsey's Career: 33 TD's, 29 INT's...

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Ramsey's Career: 33 TD's, 29 INT's...

Those figures also don't account for two hail mary's that resulted in INTs that Ramsey threw in relief performances with less than 10 seconds before the half/end of the game.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Ramsey's Career: 33 TD's, 29 INT's...

33 TD'S, 29 INTS... That's tangible to be in the NFL? Not even NFL Europe.

[jdlea]

You said more INT's than TD's, that's wrong. That's all I pointed out.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

33 TD'S, 29 INTS... That's tangible to be in the NFL? Not even NFL Europe.

SUNRA,

I'm just curious why you are so hard on Ramsey, but back Brunell at every turn. I defended Brunell last night when people were arguing that Brunell's INT (that was called back) was not his fault. I have yet to see you defend Ramsey in any situation. I know everyone likes to use hyperbole to simplifications to make a point (as I sometimes do), but do you really think the QB debate is as cut and dry as it is being made out to be? If you have that much confidence in Brunell, I just don't understand where it was coming from last season or this season.

[illdefined]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

33 TD'S, 29 INTS... That's tangible to be in the NFL? Not even NFL Europe.

again, what's tangible about Brunell completing deep?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

33 TD'S, 29 INTS... That's tangible to be in the NFL? Not even NFL Europe.

Those are also better numbers than Harrington's, Boller's or Carr's. I guess you think the Texans should cut Carr? I guess patience is not one of our team's greatest attributes.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

33 TD'S, 29 INTS... That's tangible to be in the NFL? Not even NFL Europe.

look at bledsoe or plummer, you may not like it, but it definately is. brunell was 7 and 6 last season, so i think that arguement has no merit.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

The velocity on his ball has been better than Ramsey's since preseason. How many times did Ramsey underthrow Santana Moss and every other WR in preseason? Give me something tangible that would indicate why Ramsey should be a starting QB anywhere in the NFL. More INT than TDs will not get it done.

his velocity's been better? I'm sorry, but that's just wrong. I know you like brunell, if you think he's playing better or whatever that's cool, but he never threw deep in preseason, so i don't know how you can say he has more velocity... also last year, brunell had 7tds 6 ints, ramsey was 10 and 11, those ratios are NOT that different, so i'm not buying that personally.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by SUNRA

You must admit, this is not the same Brunell from 2004. This guy was not sacked against a blitzing defense that knocked a younger guy out of the game. No INTs. No fumbles. And Portis had over 100yds. I mean this is the way its going to be in some games.

Until Brunell puts together a string of 3 games where he can move the ball down the feild, I'm going to remain very skeptical. If he plays great on Monday night, thats awsome! But he played great on Monday night last year. I wont be convinced until he consistently moves our offense. 70 yards in 3 quarters yesterday isnt exactly making me do flips.