Brunell Starting

That Guy · 09-12-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan0201

I hope that Gibbs realizes that Brunell is not that great after this game against Dallas.

dallas was actually the ONLY game last year that brunell looked good in (326yards passing).

but if we're starting brunell, i kinda feel like we're throwing our hands up... I rather see ramsesy or even start working on the campbell train instead of this.

LadyT · 09-12-2005, 07:33 PM

Gibbs makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brunell is not the answer and never has been. Seems like everyone in this city realizes it but Gibbs. He gave Brunell many, many chances last year. Kept him as the starter way too long and it cost us a chance at a decent season. Then, he says that Ramsey is his man, so one would expect the same degree of loyalty shown to Ramsey. Instead, Ramsey gets to play
less than 1 game before Gibbs takes away his starting job.

Where is the integrity and loyalty that everyone always attributed to Gibbs? Where is the sense of fairness? Does Gibbs honestly think that Brunell is the better choice.

If he truly does, then he's lost all sense of judgement and football common sense. I know now that we are in for a long and terrible season from our offense. After today's announcement, I am truly beginning to believe that Gibbs made a mistake in coming back and that he no longer has what it takes to lead this team.

itvnetop · 09-12-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyT

Gibbs makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where is the integrity and loyalty that everyone always attributed to Gibbs? Where is the sense of fairness? Does Gibbs honestly think that Brunell is the better choice.

First off, I sure wasn't sick when Gibbs won 3 rings...

Secondly, Gibbs is loyal to the Redskins organization. If he believes Ramsey hurts the team more than Brunell, he's got to go with Brunell. You can't be loyal to one player over the team. This is football- not tennis.

LadyT · 09-12-2005, 07:44 PM

Gibbs may be loyal to the org and I'm sure he thinks he is making the right choice. That's what makes it all the more scary - that he actually thinks our chances of winning are better with Brunell.

I'll say it again- get ready for another dismal season, unless of course Brunell gets hurt. If that happens and with how Gibbs has treated Ramsey, don't see how Ramsey can be put back in, so that leave us with the rookie. This is a nightmare and we've only played one game!

If we have any significant injuries on defense, we'll be lucky to win 5 or 6 games.

I've already written this season off. Thanks for nothing, Gibbs!

RedskinRat · 09-12-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LadyT

I've already written this season off. Thanks for nothing, Gibbs!

Bye!

LadyT · 09-12-2005, 07:57 PM

RedskinRat - "Whoever Coach Gibbs pick is the best option?" Are you implying the Gibbs is, therefore, infallible or that we should all just accept whatever he decides without question?

We love the Skins just as much as Gibbs and it seems Gibbs is the only one who thinks Brunell should start next week.

LadyT · 09-12-2005, 08:04 PM

Twilbert07 wrote: "With this move, Gibbs is proving the game has indeed passed him by. He single-handedly has thrown the team into turmoil after one week. Now that's BAD coaching.

He'll stick with Brunell, and we'll go 6-10 again."

Couldn't have said it better myself. This move is not only unfair to Ramsey and bad all around, but it creates unecessary and unneeded turmoil on the team. There are many guys on the team, including some team leaders such as Jansen, who want Ramsey in, not Brunell. Also, wonder how our new receivers feel, knowing that the QB will never be able to go long to them? I hope they're ready for 5-yard averages on their receptions.

To those who dare question why many of us are angry with Gibbs, it's because this move is totally ridiculous and makes a mockery of Gibbs' previous statement that Ramsey was his starter. As someone else said, if you get benched for making mistakes in the first game, then Brown and several others also need to be pulled.

Twilbert07 · 09-12-2005, 07:45 PM

With this move, Gibbs is proving the game has indeed passed him by. He single-handedly has thrown the team into turmoil after one week. Now that's BAD coaching.

He'll stick with Brunell, and we'll go 6-10 again.

LadyT · 09-12-2005, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by itvnetop

First off, I sure wasn't sick when Gibbs won 3 rings...

Secondly, Gibbs is loyal to the Redskins organization. If he believes Ramsey hurts the team more than Brunell, he's got to go with Brunell. You can't be loyal to one player over the team. This is football- not tennis.

First of all, this is not 15 or 20 years ago, so the 3 rings don't mean anything in terms of how Gibbs deals with this struggling team. I have been a Skins fan all my life and always will be, but it's time to stop judging Gibbs by what he did in the 80's.

I'm not questioning Gibbs' loyalty, nor has anyone else who thinks this is a lame brain move on his part. I am beginning to question if he still has what it takes to make us a winner. So far, the jury is still way, way out on this one and his most recent decision has done nothing to convince me that he can make a go of it in 2005.

JET · 09-12-2005, 08:33 PM

I think Gibbs made the wrong decision, and I fervently hope I'm wrong. Everyone (except the trolls) on this board wants the Skins to win this week, all we are arguing about is what gives us the best shot.

I must say though, I'm a bit sick of the Gibbs worship. It seems like he could take us through a winless season and there would still be a contingent that would point to his three superbowl wins and say "He knows what he is doing!!"

I wonder if there is anything we could agree on as a benchmark for if the game has passed Gibbs by or not. I would say anything less that 8-8 this season and my confidence in him is shot.

I was a fan during those, what, 12 incredible seasons he was here before. I loved the way he ran the team, but this time around.. I don't know. I have a hard time respecting his treatment of Ramsey.

DirtBagZ · 09-12-2005, 07:38 PM

Count me off the Gibbs bandwagon. When is it going to sink in, few if any people can successfully be both coach and GM. Gibbs the GM has pretty much ruined this season before it even began. To go all along and say Ramsey is the starter and then to bench him after 1 1/4 quarters is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Hell Peyton Manning did not look so hot initially against the Ravens D, would Gibbs bench Manning????

Is Antonio Brown still on the team? He should be cut if this going to be the standard by which players are going to be measured.

Gibbs' pride is going to ruin this team, how can any of the players trust what he says now? Gibbs is the only person in the NFL who thinks highly of Brunnel in terms of being a starter.

Mark my words Redskins fans will regret this decision for a long time, we can basically say goodbye to Greg Williams he will be a head coach again and with him will go a lot of the defensive coaching talent after this season which will be no play-offs AGAIN. All because Gibbs has to have his precious.

09-12-2005, 07:33 PM	#2
LadyT Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 219	Re: Brunell Starting Gibbs makes me sick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brunell is not the answer and never has been. Seems like everyone in this city realizes it but Gibbs. He gave Brunell many, many chances last year. Kept him as the starter way too long and it cost us a chance at a decent season. Then, he says that Ramsey is his man, so one would expect the same degree of loyalty shown to Ramsey. Instead, Ramsey gets to play less than 1 game before Gibbs takes away his starting job. Where is the integrity and loyalty that everyone always attributed to Gibbs? Where is the sense of fairness? Does Gibbs honestly think that Brunell is the better choice. If he truly does, then he's lost all sense of judgement and football common sense. I know now that we are in for a long and terrible season from our offense. After today's announcement, I am truly beginning to believe that Gibbs made a mistake in coming back and that he no longer has what it takes to lead this team.

09-12-2005, 07:44 PM	#4
LadyT Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 219	Re: Brunell Starting Gibbs may be loyal to the org and I'm sure he thinks he is making the right choice. That's what makes it all the more scary - that he actually thinks our chances of winning are better with Brunell. I'll say it again- get ready for another dismal season, unless of course Brunell gets hurt. If that happens and with how Gibbs has treated Ramsey, don't see how Ramsey can be put back in, so that leave us with the rookie. This is a nightmare and we've only played one game! If we have any significant injuries on defense, we'll be lucky to win 5 or 6 games. I've already written this season off. Thanks for nothing, Gibbs!

09-12-2005, 07:57 PM	#6
LadyT Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 219	Re: Brunell Starting RedskinRat - "Whoever Coach Gibbs pick is the best option?" Are you implying the Gibbs is, therefore, infallible or that we should all just accept whatever he decides without question? We love the Skins just as much as Gibbs and it seems Gibbs is the only one who thinks Brunell should start next week.

09-12-2005, 08:04 PM	#7
LadyT Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Ashburn, VA Posts: 219	Re: Brunell Starting Twilbert07 wrote: "With this move, Gibbs is proving the game has indeed passed him by. He single-handedly has thrown the team into turmoil after one week. Now that's BAD coaching. He'll stick with Brunell, and we'll go 6-10 again." Couldn't have said it better myself. This move is not only unfair to Ramsey and bad all around, but it creates unecessary and unneeded turmoil on the team. There are many guys on the team, including some team leaders such as Jansen, who want Ramsey in, not Brunell. Also, wonder how our new receivers feel, knowing that the QB will never be able to go long to them? I hope they're ready for 5-yard averages on their receptions. To those who dare question why many of us are angry with Gibbs, it's because this move is totally ridiculous and makes a mockery of Gibbs' previous statement that Ramsey was his starter. As someone else said, if you get benched for making mistakes in the first game, then Brown and several others also need to be pulled.

09-12-2005, 07:45 PM	#8
Twilbert07 Impact Rookie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Atlanta, GA Age: 60 Posts: 594	Re: Brunell Starting With this move, Gibbs is proving the game has indeed passed him by. He single-handedly has thrown the team into turmoil after one week. Now that's BAD coaching. He'll stick with Brunell, and we'll go 6-10 again.

09-12-2005, 08:33 PM	#10
JET Camp Scrub Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Md Age: 51 Posts: 81	Re: Brunell Starting I think Gibbs made the wrong decision, and I fervently hope I'm wrong. Everyone (except the trolls) on this board wants the Skins to win this week, all we are arguing about is what gives us the best shot. I must say though, I'm a bit sick of the Gibbs worship. It seems like he could take us through a winless season and there would still be a contingent that would point to his three superbowl wins and say "He knows what he is doing!!" I wonder if there is anything we could agree on as a benchmark for if the game has passed Gibbs by or not. I would say anything less that 8-8 this season and my confidence in him is shot. I was a fan during those, what, 12 incredible seasons he was here before. I loved the way he ran the team, but this time around.. I don't know. I have a hard time respecting his treatment of Ramsey.

09-12-2005, 07:38 PM	#11
DirtBagZ Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 481	Re: Brunell Starting Count me off the Gibbs bandwagon. When is it going to sink in, few if any people can successfully be both coach and GM. Gibbs the GM has pretty much ruined this season before it even began. To go all along and say Ramsey is the starter and then to bench him after 1 1/4 quarters is absolutely the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Hell Peyton Manning did not look so hot initially against the Ravens D, would Gibbs bench Manning???? Is Antonio Brown still on the team? He should be cut if this going to be the standard by which players are going to be measured. Gibbs' pride is going to ruin this team, how can any of the players trust what he says now? Gibbs is the only person in the NFL who thinks highly of Brunnel in terms of being a starter. Mark my words Redskins fans will regret this decision for a long time, we can basically say goodbye to Greg Williams he will be a head coach again and with him will go a lot of the defensive coaching talent after this season which will be no play-offs AGAIN. All because Gibbs has to have his precious.

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