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10-07-2013, 09:53 AM | #106 |
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Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players
@ Goat.
Alllll of this started when you asserted that MS has a knack for alienating players and coaches. I asked for names and you cited one guy in 20 years. Since then you have slipped back into your generic criticism of MS, your reliance on a small sample of Denver fans as and your assertion that last year's success was due to a "gimmick". As to the first point, I asked for examples b/c, despite having an ego the size of a small country, with the exception of Haynesworth in Washington and Plummer in Denver, every player I have seen speak about MS has said he was fair and that no one was ever "given" a spot b/c of their draft spot or their free agent contract. In fact, outside of one or two, I have never read a disparaging remark about MS from one of his players and have read nothing but praise from his former players. The assertion that he has alienated players or coaches (again, Alex Gibbs being the exception to the rule) seemed to me to be one of your unsubstantiated "I talk to Denver oil men" statements (b/c the fan base is always THE most accurate assessment of any situtation). On this first point I stand by my assessment of your statement - one or two players in 20 years who can't get along with a coach is not a "knack" for alienating players. Your assertion is baseless rumour and typical of your "MS = Bad" assessment. As to the rest, there are lots of legitimate reasons for critiquing MS time here. At the same time, the assertion that last year's NFC East was just luck based on a gimmick offense and was divorced from MS's coaching is just such ignorant BS that it does not warrant discussion.
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10-07-2013, 10:00 AM | #107 |
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Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players
I'm with you Joe, I do not believe the argument has any factual basis either.
I've noticed that the majority of people who use the word "alienate" are usually fishing for anything they can find to criticize someone. The fall-back route is usually "alienation" accusations. It's a popular buzzword in the media and politics. We're "disenfranchising" Native Americans from enjoying football too because we're "alienating" them by our lack of "diversity" in our identify. We need to get some "gravitas" and learn to "coexist" with the "progressive" population. We just lack "awareness" and "sensitivity" about "racial equality".
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10-07-2013, 11:30 AM | #108 | |
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Actually I do know a lot of Bronco fans, but you can prove me wrong on that too? besides besides besides I love when people try to eliminate aspects that hurt their argument. "Mike had a perfect situation to win Super Bowls" "Mike only had a running game last year" Oh lord lol.
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10-07-2013, 12:20 PM | #109 |
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last season was not soley on the "gimmick" offense... it was griff's health/confidence, and the coaches confidence in him also... cuz the "gimmick" offense is STILL working pretty fine for the few teams that started using it after seeing how effective it was for us...
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10-07-2013, 12:27 PM | #110 |
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Re: Redskins Try Out 18 Players
As we turn on GPS [recalculating]
Did the Skins actually make any offers to any of the 18? if not, I would say this thread has run it's course. [your destination is on the left] |
10-07-2013, 12:32 PM | #111 |
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No. And I agree. Time to lock this. Let Goat ruin some other thread
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