Washington Redskins vs Detroit Lions Pregame Thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Nobody forced Haslett to take the job? That has got to be the lamest excuse for Shanahan I've ever heard

It's not an excuse for Shanahan, I'm saying Haslett is the DC and his job is to run the D, simple as that.

I don't buy any excuses for him, sorry.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's not an excuse for Shanahan, I'm saying Haslett is the DC and his job is to run the D, simple as that.

I don't buy any excuses for him, sorry.

I said:
"Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault"

You replied:
"Nobody forced Haslett to take the job."

How else am I supposed to interpret that?
Thats like a daycare hiring a child molester than when something bad happens saying well nobody forced the child molester to take the job.

As far as teams switching to the 3-4 every year,so what,thats got nothing to do with the situation as it was back then

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I said:
"Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault"

You replied:
"Nobody forced Haslett to take the job."

How else am I supposed to interpret that?
Thats like a daycare hiring a child molester than when something bad happens saying well nobody forced the child molester to take the job.

As far as teams switching to the 3-4 every year,so what,thats got nothing to do with the situation as it was back then

As Smootsmack pointed out, Haslett was not Shanahan's first or even second choice. Do you think bringing in defensive coordinators is as easy as just running down to your local Walmart to pick one up?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I said:
"Haslett is responsible for the defense Now,but it was Shanahans hare brained ideal to hire Haslett and blow up our 4-3 defense that was never suited to run the 3-4 and weve pretty much sucked since then,so you could kinda say its all Shanahans fault"

You replied:
"Nobody forced Haslett to take the job."

How else am I supposed to interpret that?
Thats like a daycare hiring a child molester than when something bad happens saying well nobody forced the child molester to take the job.

As far as teams switching to the 3-4 every year,so what,thats got nothing to do with the situation as it was back then

I know what we said, but you missed my point, which is the 3-4 isn't an excuse, and if Haslett didn't want to run it he wouldn't have taken the job. We have an entirely different team from back then. 4-3 or 3-4 doesn't matter when you're not tackling and not playing sound defense.

Haslett shouldn't be let off the hook just because Shanahan wanted a 3-4 here.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I know what we said, but you missed my point, which is the 3-4 isn't an excuse, and if Haslett didn't want to run it he wouldn't have taken the job. We have an entirely different team from back then. 4-3 or 3-4 doesn't matter when you're not tackling and not playing sound defense.

Haslett shouldn't be let off the hook just because Shanahan wanted a 3-4 here.

Well of course I missed the point when you answer with that reply
If you would have replied with that last sentence you just wrote then we would have been in complete agreement

[skinsnut]

Part of me hopes that if we don't make the playoffs anyways...I hope our defense continues to suck so we upgrade our defensive coordinator.

Going 500 or slightly lower isn't going to be enough to yank Haslett.
I never liked this hire...I grew to be ok with it...but why settle for a chronic underperformer...I just don't get it.

This year our defense sucks...but c'mon guys...last year they were 28th...that sucks bad too...we are just witnessing possiblly the worse NFL defense in the last 50 years over the last 2 week. Is it really any different that last year? nope...but they are definately underperforming.

I really think the offense is a fine NFL level unit...not as "incredible" as most thought last year...we just overperformed and went on a nasty streak...mostly against weaker NFC east teams too. We BARELY made the playoffs while overperforming both offensively and defensively...and our kicker was perfect.

Say what you want...but some of that is players...and some is coaching. I just don't understand why coaching can't help us more. I saw some adjustments offensively last week...and it showed improvement,and we will likely see even greater improvement this week...but not defense. Unlike others, I think Shanny and son are good...probabaly top 10 on offense. Who on earth would trade their defensive coordinator with HASLETT? you got it....NO ONE!

Am I calling for his head?...why not....we already have a much more successfull defensive coordinator on staff...give him the keys to transition now....and worry about the long term after the season. The scheme will not change and it is IMPOSSIBLE to get worse...think about that....impossible,
ZERO RISK PROPOSITION.

I know they will get better...and people will feel better...but the long term problem will remain. Haslett has to go. The sooner...the better.
I just wish they would make an executive decision and tear off the bandaid before it does more damage than good when it is far too late.