Around the NFL: Week 16

Giantone · 12-26-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I don't ever want to hear how Eli Is an elite QB ever again.. The guy has always had a shit load of talent around him but he's a bumb! 24 Ints 6 fumbles lost this season.. They got lucky to win that SB or he would probably been traded by now.

Fine , then don't listen.Out of the 24 ints13 have been off the hands of his recievers I find it funny that you didn't mention his 31 TD's this season but I will be the first to say that team needs a new direction and it's Coughlin that must go!!! hello cowher.Lucky or not he won it and he has the MVP trophy to prove it.

skinsfaninok · 12-26-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah Orton should be high on our radar... Grossman the fallback plan.

Everyone thinks Shanny will draft a QB in the 1st round but unless its Luck I don't see us going QB.. I dont think a Cam Newton fits our quick release pass game.. Idk but I think we go WR in the 1st

skinsfaninok · 12-26-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Fine , then don't listen.Out of the 24 ints13 have been off the hands of his recievers I find it funny that you didn't mention his 31 TD's this season but I will be the first to say that team needs a new direction and it's Coughlin that must go!!! hello cowher.Lucky or not he won it and he has the MVP trophy to prove it.

Hey the guy did win that SB kudos to him, I'm not taking that away BUT he's not a top 10 QB in the NFL and never has been. He has 31 Tds bcuz that team IS LOADED at WR. His DUMB ASS Int's consistently kill him and the team every season.. He just throws it up into double and tripple coverage.. He's a decent QB but not a "Franchise" QB imo.

Tom isn't calling the Offense and he sure as hell isn't out there looking lost throwing into 3 Defenders.. Be careful what you wish for when it comes to Coughlin he's a solid coach.. and Cowher last I checked only won 1 thats right 1 SB in his years at Pitt.. IDK how much better he is than Coughlin honestly.

Mark Rypien, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer have also won SB's.

SirClintonPortis · 12-26-2010, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Fine , then don't listen.Out of the 24 ints13 have been off the hands of his recievers I find it funny that you didn't mention his 31 TD's this season but I will be the first to say that team needs a new direction and it's Coughlin that must go!!! hello cowher.Lucky or not he won it and he has the MVP trophy to prove it.

I would cheer the move to hire COwher. No Super Bowl for you fellas.

MTK · 12-26-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Everyone thinks Shanny will draft a QB in the 1st round but unless its Luck I don't see us going QB.. I dont think a Cam Newton fits our quick release pass game.. Idk but I think we go WR in the 1st

We have a lot of needs, any BPA within those needs will make sense.

skinsfaninok · 12-26-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We have a lot of needs, any BPA within those needs wil make sense.

Agreed

MTK · 12-26-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I know Seattle's defense is garbage, but Josh Freeman... my goodness. He's a helluva young QB. 5 TDs.

How about 21/26 on the day, and 23 TD vs only 6 INT on the year?

The Bucs sure got that ship turned around fast.

htownskinfan · 12-27-2010, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I would like to see that too, but I think we could survive with Grossman as well.

I dont get your infatuation with Orton,have you watched the Bronco's games?
I have to admit I havent checked Orton's stats and Ive only caught a few Denver games,but I"m friends with a Denver season ticket holder that tells me Orton isnt that great,he doesnt suck,but he's not an upgrade over Grossman.If were not going after an upgrade or going to start a rookie that we drafted high,I'd rather just resign Rex

MTK · 12-27-2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I dont get your infatuation with Orton,have you watched the Bronco's games?
I have to admit I havent checked Orton's stats and Ive only caught a few Denver games,but I"m friends with a Denver season ticket holder that tells me Orton isnt that great,he doesnt suck,but he's not an upgrade over Grossman.If were not going after an upgrade or going to start a rookie that we drafted high,I'd rather just resign Rex

A bit of a strong word there. I haven't been banging his drum that much.

I think he would be a solid upgrade and someone we could win with, I don't think he's the 2nd coming or anything.

He's thrown for over 3,600 yards this year with 20 TDs vs 9 INTs in 13 starts. Plus he's won a lot of games in this league.

GMScud · 12-27-2010, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

Fine , then don't listen.Out of the 24 ints13 have been off the hands of his recievers I find it funny that you didn't mention his 31 TD's this season but I will be the first to say that team needs a new direction and it's Coughlin that must go!!! hello cowher.Lucky or not he won it and he has the MVP trophy to prove it.

Yeah well a lot of tipped balls off of receivers hands were because he was overthrowing. Eli has 24 picks and 6 lost fumbles. That's not good enough.

SkinzWin · 12-27-2010, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah Orton should be high on our radar... Grossman the fallback plan.

Agreed.

skinsfaninok · 12-27-2010, 01:41 AM

Yo HTown maybe you should check his career stats and record, pretty damn good. The last 3 years he's been very good and he's a big arm accurate QB. The most underrated QB in football IMO. Is he Dan Marino? Heck no but he's a pretty good player. He had no Marshall this year and moreno was hurt a lot and still but up BIG Time numbers. Just saying

skinsfaninok · 12-27-2010, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah well a lot of tipped balls off of receivers hands were because he was overthrowing. Eli has 24 picks and 6 lost fumbles. That's not good enough.

If his last name wasn't manning I swear people would rip him all day.. I've never been a fan of his, I'd take McNabb over Eli any day. You would think he would know his mechanics by now but my god he looks so damn lost at times. The guy isn't the worst QB but NO MORE franchise QB label for Eli.

BleedBurgundy · 12-27-2010, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

If his last name wasn't manning I swear people would rip him all day.. I've never been a fan of his, I'd take McNabb over Eli any day. You would think he would know his mechanics by now but my god he looks so damn lost at times. The guy isn't the worst QB but NO MORE franchise QB label for Eli.

Never include this on your resume, could negatively impact people's view of your decision making...

Bucket · 12-27-2010, 04:15 AM

I would support us making a move for Orton, and rebuilding other aspects like our defense in the draft.

Grossman vs Orton vs Beck for the Redskins QB next season could be interesting.

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skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 37 Posts: 36,114	Re: Around the NFL: Week 16 Yo HTown maybe you should check his career stats and record, pretty damn good. The last 3 years he's been very good and he's a big arm accurate QB. The most underrated QB in football IMO. Is he Dan Marino? Heck no but he's a pretty good player. He had no Marshall this year and moreno was hurt a lot and still but up BIG Time numbers. Just saying __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

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Bucket Playmaker Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 3,881	Re: Around the NFL: Week 16 I would support us making a move for Orton, and rebuilding other aspects like our defense in the draft. Grossman vs Orton vs Beck for the Redskins QB next season could be interesting.

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